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    Default Looking for old Camp Chase Gazettes

    Hello,
    My name is David Fictum, and I am looking for old issues of the Camp Chase Gazette. I am hoping that someone can provide (or borrow) them to me. It is for a project I am working on, a book concerning the History of Civil War reenacting. I have found the Camp Chase Gazette is a very valuable resource for this project. Here are the issues that I need:

    -ANYTHING from the beginning in 1972 to Volume 14, Issue 2 (November/December (Holiday) 1986 )
    -Volume 17, Issue 9 (August 1990)
    -Volume 22, Issues 2-8 (November/December (Holiday) 1994-July 1995 )
    -ANYTHING from Volumes 23 and 24
    -Volume 25, Issues 1-4,7,8 (October 1997-March 1998, June-July 1998 )
    -Volume 28, Issue 2 (November/December (Holiday) 2000 )
    -Volume 29, Issue 1 (October 2001)
    -Volume 30, Issue 3 (January/February 2003 )
    -ANYTHING from Volume 32, Issue 8 (July 2005) to Volume 35, Issue 3 (January/February (Winter) 2008 )


    Thank you to any of you who are willing to help.
    David Fictum,
    Pennsylvania College Guard Member,
    Recent member of the 2nd WI, Company A

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    Lightbulb Something about crushed stone and other aggr....

    Maybe you could link up with that fellow who wants to build a museum for civil war reenacting.
    Roger "Rog" Johns

    ...you end up with Outpost 2007, which featured one handed mounted cav carbine firing whilst on the move...a CSA cav charge against an inf company that resulted in some captured feds (and we didn't even get to eat the presumably shredded horses)...company's manuevering as seperate battalions...a waste of ammo powder burning night fight. - RJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidf
    Hello,
    My name is David Fictum, and I am looking for old issues of the Camp Chase Gazette.
    Thank you to any of you who are willing to help.
    Do an Internet search for Wm., William or Bill Keitz in the Lancaster, Ohio area and see what comes up. Bill was the originator of the Gazette and may have produced bound copies by year.

    I hope you will agree that we can't take everyone as seriously as we'd like to even if they don't imbibe. But about retaining the past of re-enacting let me offer a modified Lion King quote on history:

    ...the way I see it, you can either run from it; or learn from it, but you can't learn from it if you don't save it and make it available for others to avail themselves of it.

    Walt

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    Skip the issues after mid-2003. The value of the event reports, and indeed the very events included in the reports published, is of dubious value.

    Reenacting has long been bereft of objective reporting on events. Most published event reports are written by the folks who run the event or their friends, and focus on the good and the rah-rah instead of the objective. For some reason, to provide legitimate criticism of a hobby-related event is often viewed as mean-spirited by many folks, whether they ran that event or not. I guess thinking happy thoughts keeps happy minds.

    Many reenactor event reports in hobbyist periodicals are devoid of facts and objective evaluations. For instance, many event reports do not state how many particpants attended, or who the organizers were, or who the principal military commander impressionists were. As for the reports in Camp Chase Gazette in recent years that I've seen, heck, they often have neglected to even say what state the event was in, leaving me to scratch my head while wondering if the thing was in California, Florida, Maine, or Tahiti, or maybe somewhere else.

    A reenactor journalism class would be a nice thing, if anyone cared to attend it.

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    A reenactor journalism class. What a novel idea, Kevin!
    Jason Thibodeaux
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    Thanks Kevin for that commentary. Thanks for the heads up on the possible "bias" this resource could have. I have been reading through all the resources I have so far, and I would have to agree with what you said about the post 2003 issues. I have gone through and read many articles, but I haven't taken notes and analysed them yet. But from what I have seen, after Nicky Hughes left the magazine, things changed. The style of the magazine itself changed. The fonts, the formatting of the pages, and the content changed to make it look more like a modern magazine, and I am not talking about a modern magazine like the ones you see on a newstand. Some of my favorite editions I have read so far have all come from the 90s.

    Thank you again for the commentary.

    One more thought, whatever happen to the CCG's sense of humor? I liked the occasional funny article and the cartoons in the old CCGs.
    David Fictum,
    Pennsylvania College Guard Member,
    Recent member of the 2nd WI, Company A

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidf

    One more thought, whatever happen to the CCG's sense of humor? I liked the occasional funny article and the cartoons in the old CCGs.
    To follow up on what Kevin said, somewhere in that 2002-3 period, CCG was purchased by Lakeway Publications and once Nicky Hughes saw the direction they wanted to take it and bailed, it became what it is today ( you can provide your own description here). The main thing to understand is that it went from a reenactor based hobby publication to a vehicle designed primarily to support advertising packages in tandem with Lakeways Civil War Courier newspaper.
    When I got in the hobby in 1994, a majority of reenactors supported CCG and its articles and features reached across the broad spectrum of the hobby. The last issues I got a couple of years ago were filled with fluff pieces and nearly worthless event reports that might have come from any mainstream units newsletters.
    CCG was once "The Voice of CW Reenacting" It long ago became irrelevant, especially in light of the growth of the Internet.

    Kent Dorr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kevin O'Beirne
    Skip the issues after mid-2003. The value of the event reports, and indeed the very events included in the reports published, is of dubious value.

    Reenacting has long been bereft of objective reporting on events. Most published event reports are written by the folks who run the event or their friends, and focus on the good and the rah-rah instead of the objective. For some reason, to provide legitimate criticism of a hobby-related event is often viewed as mean-spirited by many folks, whether they ran that event or not. I guess thinking happy thoughts keeps happy minds.

    Many reenactor event reports in hobbyist periodicals are devoid of facts and objective evaluations. For instance, many event reports do not state how many particpants attended, or who the organizers were, or who the principal military commander impressionists were. As for the reports in Camp Chase Gazette in recent years that I've seen, heck, they often have neglected to even say what state the event was in, leaving me to scratch my head while wondering if the thing was in California, Florida, Maine, or Tahiti, or maybe somewhere else.

    A reenactor journalism class would be a nice thing, if anyone cared to attend it.

    Oh, I don't know... I thought maybe one or two of them weren't half bad.
    Mike Phineas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    Maybe you could link up with that fellow who wants to build a museum for civil war reenacting.
    Please... tell me you are kidding. A Civil War reenacting museum? I am Jack's ragging bile duct.
    - Ernesto Serna

    "...I'm struck by the contradiction at the core of Civil War reenacting. On the surface it's a hyper-macho hobby, focused on guns and battle. But the longer I hang out with hardcores ... the more they remind me of supermodels, chatting endlessly about their jackets and shoes and hair and how many pounds they've lost since the last event." - Tony Horwitz

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    Quote Originally Posted by Che
    Quote: Originally Posted by Memphis
    Maybe you could link up with that fellow who wants to build a museum for civil war reenacting.

    Che -- Please... tell me you are kidding. A Civil War reenacting museum? I am Jack's ragging bile duct. Ernesto Serna
    Ernesto,

    I believe that a short fuze was lit without a factoid bomb attached. Haven't reas anywhere else about someone wanting to erect a museum to house re-enactor memorabilia either.

    On the other-hand a growing number of museums have/are asking re-enactors for some of their old field-service duds to help fill out various displays.

    Is it real or is it memore-enacex?

    Walt

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