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    Default Good statement

    Pards,

    Silas said this-

    Are folks at the bottom end of the reenacting spectrum entitled to do the samo-samo at every event they attend without making any effort to conform to minimal event standards at better events?


    Kinda like -Do folks who want to just play softball and drink beer allowed to play at Yankee Stadium? NOPE. They know better, and should.

    Perhaps in the next stage of reenacting we will find this direction refreshing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Rover
    Silas said this-
    Are folks at the bottom end of the reenacting spectrum entitled to do the samo-samo at every event they attend without making any effort to conform to minimal event standards at better events?
    Kinda like -Do folks who want to just play softball and drink beer allowed to play at Yankee Stadium? NOPE. They know better, and should.

    Perhaps in the next stage of reenacting we will find this direction refreshing.

    All reenactors are required to meet, or exceed, the minimum listed standards for a given event in order to attend the event.

    They should also refrain from criticizing other reenactors who meet the event's standards, but not their own, while at said event.

    Both situations call for nothing more than common courtesy and playing by the rules from all involved.
    Bernard Biederman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Rover
    Do folks who want to just play softball and drink beer allowed to play at Yankee Stadium?
    If they pay George Steinbrenner enough money to rent the place, they can play any game they choose. And drink Buckhorn, too.

    Bigby H

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    Default So...

    Then it seems it is up to the different organizers to set the standards that will raise the tide for all boats.

    I guess then they have to decide if their event is going to be good or poor, based upon the regulations they create.

    That being said, what responsiblity do you see unit commanders having in all of this?

    And what do you say to event organizers who fail to move beyond 1992?


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    My sainted mother was fond of saying "Why are you worried about what the other guy is doing?"

    Mark
    Last edited by MStuart; 05-17-2006 at 11:06 AM.
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    Because those same spoiled children will show up at you house, rampage around and say-

    "Other events don't make us/or allow us to do XYZ"

    " We are members of XXXX and as such don't have to abide by your rules"

    "Other events don't enforce their regs, why are you"

    It is all connected you see.

    If one home allows drunk children to pee all over the floor, then they assume all houses will, and will fight back if told it is not acceptable and rage against proper etiquette.

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    Entirely true. But I've never gone to my neighbors' house and told him how to run it. I've just never visited again. Same should be with events. Vote with attendance is the simplest way to avoid heartburn and conflict.

    In a bad baseball analogy, if you don't like what the goofs are doing in the bleachers, you get box seats along the dugout. You're happy, the bleacher creatures are happy, and everyone has a good time in their own way.

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    Default But

    Re-read my message...I no longer go to my neighbors house, as watching them deficate on the couch is not fun, but sometimes their kids come over to mine, and demand to act the same at my house.

    That is why each event organizer is responsible to another.

    If one lets something "slide" then the participants expect all organizers to do so.

    Stop making excuses for low expectations....it justifys poor quality and gives non achievers comfort.

    It is not about making folks feel good about poor impressions and/or events. It is about history, and working to reach the highest level possible, not making folks feel good about being a farb.

    Yes it must be fun, or else why do it? But fun and history are not exclusive to each other. But farb and history is.

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    Please reread my post. We're not on opposite sides. I'm stating that it doesn't bother me in the same way it does you. I take care of controlling what I can, and don't worry about what the other guy is doing. I'll do my darndest to make lemonade out of a lemon event. If I'm satisfied with my "performance", then that's good enough for me. I don't go, or go back to, events I know I'm not going to have a good experience at. That's the good thing about choices. I've decided to quit worrying about what makes other reenactors tick, and do the best job I know how at the events I go to.

    Your vision to enhance events is a good one and you've gone the extra mile and organized some. Some attend and some don't, but I don't give much thought on why or why not. None of my business, really. I'd bet my passion for this hobby is no less than yours. I just decide to be concerned with what I can control and do for and by myself and my unit. As an event organizer, you have control over who goes where and how. As a grunt, I don't. This is where the vast majority of us vote with our feet and $$.


    Mark - Preachin' to the choir
    Last edited by MStuart; 05-18-2006 at 10:46 AM.
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    Default Why settle?

    Mark, I'm not asking you in particular, but your quote; "I'll do my darndest to make lemonade out of a lemon event" raises a question in my mind.

    In my opinion, it is the event organizers' job to fulfill the needs of the participants, both logistically and with regard to what the participant is looking to get out of the event. If this isn't done, the event has failed and one should be wary of attending another event being put on by that organizer(s).

    I've heard many people say similar things to your quote and I wonder if one drinks too much lemonade, wouldn't it leave a bad taste in one's mouth?
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