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    Default Anyone have a Whitworth Rifle for sale or trade?

    Hello all,
    I was wondering if anyone in the Alabama or close to Alabama has a Whitworth or maybe even a "Volunteer" rifle (more or less a copy of a Kerr isn't it?) in good condition for sale or trade? I have an Uberti 1860 Henry Rifle in excellent condition I would trade. I do not mind driving a ways say like into the neighboring states a ways to make a trade.

    As for the Whitworth, I want it to have the correct Hexagonal rifling. I understand there is a copy of a Whitworth out there that has a round bore instead of the Hex bore. I want the correct hex bore.
    Thanks,
    Pistolero
    Millbrook, Al.
    Last edited by Pistolero; 12-04-2007 at 01:10 AM. Reason: add something
    Millbrook, Elmore County
    Sovereign State of Alabama
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    Default Check Dixie Gun Works

    I have a friend of mine that bought one this year and it has the correct hexagonal rifling,
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    Check Dixie Gun Works
    I have a friend of mine that bought one this year and it has the correct hexagonal rifling,
    I also bought one from there and it has the hexaganol rifling. As a proud owner of a Whitworth, I suspect that you are not going to find very many Whitworth owners who are willing to part with theirs. I would bite the bullet and buy a new one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistolero
    Hello all,
    I have an Uberti 1860 Henry Rifle in excellent condition I would trade. I do not mind driving a ways say like into the neighboring states a ways to make a trade.


    Pistolero
    Millbrook, Al.
    A non-FFL (Federal Firearms Licensee) cannot transfer a firearm interstate to an individual without going through an FFL for the transfer

    Chris Rideout
    Tampa, FLorida

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    How much for the henry outright? what caliber?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaConfederate
    A non-FFL (Federal Firearms Licensee) cannot transfer a firearm interstate to an individual without going through an FFL for the transfer

    Chris Rideout
    Tampa, FLorida
    If you do it in person, you don't have to through an FFL, Only if you ship it through the mail. [deletion -THP; just in case]

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    Ok ....but I personally might think twice about admitting guilt to "many" federal felonies on the WEB

    I refer you to the Gun Control Act of GCA 1968 outside of cases of bequest or intestate succession

    and for the sake of brevity....

    to these snipets from the BATFE website and FAQ

    1) A person may sell a firearm to an unlicensed resident of his or her state, if the buyer is not prohibited by law from receiving or possessing a firearm, or to a licensee in any state. A firearm other than a curio or relic may not be transferred interstate to a licensed collector. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

    2) A person may only buy a firearm within the person's own state, except that he or she may buy a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any state, provided the sale complies with state laws applicable in the state of sale and the state where the purchaser resides. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]

    3) A person not licensed under the GCA and not prohibited from acquiring firearms may purchase a firearm from an out-of-state source and obtain the firearm if an arrangement is made with a licensed dealer in the purchaser's state of residence for the purchaser to obtain the firearm from the dealer. [18 U. S. C 922( a)( 3) and (5), 922( b)( 3), 27 CFR 178.29]
    Last edited by FloridaConfederate; 12-04-2007 at 08:19 AM.

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    Default Crossing state lines, etc..

    Hello all,
    Thanks for the responses y'all. First of all, a muzzle loader can be sent or carried across state lines. But as far as a cartidge gun like the Henry, I was under the impression that while you can't take handguns across state lines and sell them, it is ok for long guns such as shotguns or rifles. Am I wrong in this, does anyone know for sure? I think I am going to call the police station and see if they have the answer.

    Hey Whitworth owners, I have a question: I went to Dixie Gun Works and looked at what they have. They offer two or three different ones; a Parker Hale for like $1400.00, another one for like $1300.00, and Dixie Gunworks' own offering at $950.00. Which ones do y'all have and do they shoot as accurately as they say or the original ones supposedly did? I might just break down and buy me the Dixie one for $950.00. I would love to have a Perker Hale Whitworth since they are supposedly made with the original gauges, better steel, etc.. But I just can't afford $1400.00 right now.

    What do y'all know about that "Volunteer" rifle with the Alexander Henry type rifling? I heard that it is actually a copy of the Kerr rifle?

    Anyway, Brent, you were asking about my Henry. It is in .45 Colt, and is accurate. I paid $1100.00 for it, tax and all. Give me a hollar.
    Pistolero
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    Yes somebody knows for sure.....being one who likes to be shown not told myself personally.......here you go:

    From the United States Code (which I cited previously)

    TITLE 18 > PART I > CHAPTER 44 > § 922. Unlawful acts

    (a) It shall be unlawful—

    (1) for any person—

    (A) except a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer, to engage in the business of importing, manufacturing, or dealing in firearms, or in the course of such business to ship, transport, or receive any firearm in interstate or foreign commerce; or

    (B) except a licensed importer or licensed manufacturer, to engage in the business of importing or manufacturing ammunition, or in the course of such business, to ship, transport, or receive any ammunition in interstate or foreign commerce;

    (2) for any importer, manufacturer, dealer, or collector licensed under the provisions of this chapter to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce any firearm to any person other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector, except that—

    (A) this paragraph and subsection (b)(3) shall not be held to preclude a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector from returning a firearm or replacement firearm of the same kind and type to a person from whom it was received; and this paragraph shall not be held to preclude an individual from mailing a firearm owned in compliance with Federal, State, and local law to a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector;

    (B) this paragraph shall not be held to preclude a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, or licensed dealer from depositing a firearm for conveyance in the mails to any officer, employee, agent, or watchman who, pursuant to the provisions of section 1715 of this title, is eligible to receive through the mails pistols, revolvers, and other firearms capable of being concealed on the person, for use in connection with his official duty; and

    (C) nothing in this paragraph shall be construed as applying in any manner in the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or any possession of the United States differently than it would apply if the District of Columbia, the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico, or the possession were in fact a State of the United States;

    (3) for any person, other than a licensed importer, licensed manufacturer, licensed dealer, or licensed collector to transport into or receive in the State where he resides (or if the person is a corporation or other business entity, the State where it maintains a place of business) any firearm purchased or otherwise obtained by such person outside that State, except that this paragraph (A) shall not preclude any person who lawfully acquires a firearm by bequest or intestate succession in a State other than his State of residence from transporting the firearm into or receiving it in that State, if it is lawful for such person to purchase or possess such firearm in that State, (B) shall not apply to the transportation or receipt of a firearm obtained in conformity with subsection (b)(3) of this section, and (C) shall not apply to the transportation of any firearm acquired in any State prior to the effective date of this chapter;
    and a link

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...2----000-.html

    Chiristopher Rideout

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pistolero
    Hello all,
    Thanks for the responses y'all. First of all, a muzzle loader can be sent or carried across state lines. But as far as a cartidge gun like the Henry, I was under the impression that while you can't take handguns across state lines and sell them, it is ok for long guns such as shotguns or rifles. Am I wrong in this, does anyone know for sure? I think I am going to call the police station and see if they have the answer.

    Hey Whitworth owners, I have a question: I went to Dixie Gun Works and looked at what they have. They offer two or three different ones; a Parker Hale for like $1400.00, another one for like $1300.00, and Dixie Gunworks' own offering at $950.00. Which ones do y'all have and do they shoot as accurately as they say or the original ones supposedly did? I might just break down and buy me the Dixie one for $950.00. I would love to have a Perker Hale Whitworth since they are supposedly made with the original gauges, better steel


    Pistolero
    Alabama
    The commericially available Whitworth repops (non-custom one-of)
    are made by Euroarms....who makes the Dixie and the Parker Hale one...

    They are marked differently that is all.

    Link http://www.euroarms.net/euroarms_net...ny_profile.htm

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