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    Not a flag or statue but the "political correctees" are at it in Florida. They want Stephen Fosters song "Suwanee River" replaced as state song because it mentions the black folks in a slavery light or so they say. I propose Sammy Hagar's "I can't drive 55" for all the old folks jamming the hiways or maybe the Joanie Mitchell song about paving over paradise and building a parking lot!! Jim Hensley
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    The actual title of "Swanee River" is Old Folks at Home.

    I live in Maryland, a state that has the absolutely worse state song of any: Maryland My Maryland. I wanna puke whenever I hear it because it is a blantant piece of Confederate propaganda that is totally unsuitable for a state that never seceded from the Union and sent more Marylanders into the Union ranks than it did Confederate ranks. But, I would not have it completely removed for reasons of "political correctness" in order to just appease the Stalinists who want to erase history.

    The solution is simple - Florida and Maryland both need to designate their current state songs as emeritus and find new ones that fit the times. Many states have multiple state songs such as Arkansas, Tennesse, Massachucetts, New Mexico and West Virginia, among others. It's no big deal to have more than one song. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_songs for a list of state songs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhorsedman
    I live in Maryland, a state that has the absolutely worse state song of any: Maryland My Maryland. I wanna puke whenever I hear it because it is a blantant piece of Confederate propaganda that is totally unsuitable for a state that never seceded from the Union and sent more Marylanders into the Union ranks than it did Confederate ranks.
    It is no coincidence that "Maryland, My Maryland" was made the state song in 1939, the same year "Gone With the Wind" fooled America into beleiving in "a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South. Here in this pretty world, Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind..."
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    Kentucky did some PC correcting with its state song, "My Old Kentucky Home".

    The darkies are no longer gay, but "the people" are. I think they also tried out "old folks", "young folks" and "children" before that.

    Maybe it's because I grew up with the original wording, but this seems so contrived, like plastering over a prettier smile on the Mona Lisa. It's like being force-fed bad tasting medicine because it's good for you, knowing that it really won't make you feel any better.
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    Virginia lost her State song "Carry Me Back to Old Virginia" a few years back under the same line of reasoning. Words such as "darkie" and refrences to "old massah" were regarded as too racist. All of this is in lieu of the fact that it was written over a hundred years ago by a Black man. It has been temporarily replaced by "Shenandoah", a song that has more to do with Missouri than Virginia. Unfortunatley, the Virginia General Assembly has been unable to come up with a song about Virginia written by a native Virginian. This is the kind of historical revisionism that would have all the perceived negatives of history covered up for fear that someone might potentially be offended by them. But I guess I just care to much about history to see it whitewashed...(no pun intended).

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    Default Well perhaps if it had been allowed to seceed

    Quote Originally Posted by Unhorsedman
    The actual title of "Swanee River" is Old Folks at Home.

    I live in Maryland, a state that has the absolutely worse state song of any: Maryland My Maryland. I wanna puke whenever I hear it because it is a blantant piece of Confederate propaganda that is totally unsuitable for a state that never seceded from the Union and sent more Marylanders into the Union ranks than it did Confederate ranks. But, I would not have it completely removed for reasons of "political correctness" in order to just appease the Stalinists who want to erase history.

    The solution is simple - Florida and Maryland both need to designate their current state songs as emeritus and find new ones that fit the times. Many states have multiple state songs such as Arkansas, Tennesse, Massachucetts, New Mexico and West Virginia, among others. It's no big deal to have more than one song. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_songs for a list of state songs.
    what a great citizen, puking over your own state song. I love "Carry me back to ol virginny". anyhow the union view isn't the only one there, you seem to be in denial that the state was strongly pro south in many areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhorsedman
    The actual title of "Swanee River" is Old Folks at Home.

    I live in Maryland, a state that has the absolutely worse state song of any: Maryland My Maryland. I wanna puke whenever I hear it because it is a blantant piece of Confederate propaganda that is totally unsuitable for a state that never seceded from the Union and sent more Marylanders into the Union ranks than it did Confederate ranks. But, I would not have it completely removed for reasons of "political correctness" in order to just appease the Stalinists who want to erase history.

    The solution is simple - Florida and Maryland both need to designate their current state songs as emeritus and find new ones that fit the times. Many states have multiple state songs such as Arkansas, Tennesse, Massachucetts, New Mexico and West Virginia, among others. It's no big deal to have more than one song. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._state_songs for a list of state songs.
    Maryland has a beautiful and befitting state song that speaks of the despotism and tyranny forced upon it during its occupation. Maryland was denied the opportunity to secede from the Union when its Legislators were illegally imprisoned. Free speech was denied and newspaper editors, including Francis Key Howard, were arrested and held without charges. Howard, the grandson of Francis Scott Key, was imprisoned at Ft. McHenry 47 years to the day his grandfather was held prisoner on a British ship. His only crime was questioning the Constitutionality of the Lincoln Administration not recognizing habeas corpus, and engaging in a war without Congressional approval.


    The presumption that more Marylanders served in the Union ranks versus Confederate is inaccurate. Maryland always fell behind in meeting its Federal recruitment goal and often filled Federal ranks with recent immigrants. There were over 26,000 identified Marylanders serving the Confederacy. In addition to providing the Confederate Navy’s only two Admirals, Maryland provided a host of Field Grade Officers. How many other alleged Union states funded their own Confederate Soldiers Home with state taxpayer dollars or appointed former Confederates as Presidents of their state University?


    Maryland does not need an emeritus designation for its current state song. Marylanders appreciate their rich historical heritage that the song reflects upon. If you find the current state song so offensive, perhaps you might wish to consider residing in a state whose song is more to your liking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RebelBugler
    [COLOR=black]Maryland has a beautiful and befitting state song that speaks of the despotism and tyranny forced upon it during its occupation...
    Throwing stones in glass houses, eh? Jeff Davis was pretty despotic and also suspended habeus corpus and instituted martial law where it was politically expedient for him to do so.

    Lest we forget that when Lee marched into MD in the fall of 1862 he was quite disappointed at the pitiful number of MD recruits he expected to suddenly come knocking on his tent pole. After Antietam, desertion in the Army of Northern Virginia skyrocketted to epidemic propotions that had ol' Marse Robert pretty worried.

    If you find the current state song so offensive, perhaps you might wish to consider residing in a state whose song is more to your liking.
    A new bumper sticker slogan? "Maryland: Love the Song or Leave!" You think that up all by your lonesome? How original! As an American, a veteran, and a Maryland taxpayer I'll dislike the Maryland state song all I want whether you or the increasingly militant SCV likes it or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shermans_Neckties
    It is no coincidence that "Maryland, My Maryland" was made the state song in 1939, the same year "Gone With the Wind" fooled America into beleiving in "a land of Cavaliers and Cotton Fields called the Old South. Here in this pretty world, Gallantry took its last bow. Here was the last ever to be seen of Knights and their Ladies Fair, of Master and of Slave. Look for it only in books, for it is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind..."
    no fooling anyone, in my part of nc it was cavaliers and cotton fields growing up but no more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unhorsedman
    Throwing stones in glass houses, eh? Jeff Davis was pretty despotic and also suspended habeus corpus and instituted martial law where it was politically expedient for him to do so.

    Lest we forget that when Lee marched into MD in the fall of 1862 he was quite disappointed at the pitiful number of MD recruits he expected to suddenly come knocking on his tent pole. After Antietam, desertion in the Army of Northern Virginia skyrocketted to epidemic propotions that had ol' Marse Robert pretty worried.

    A new bumper sticker slogan? "Maryland: Love the Song or Leave!" You think that up all by your lonesome? How original! As an American, a veteran, and a Maryland taxpayer I'll dislike the Maryland state song all I want whether you or the increasingly militant SCV likes it or not.

    like it or not, MD may have secceeded if not for the crackdown. your in denial somewhat. anyhow love you mdlanders, raise your cig taxes and then come to va to buy them cheaper and take them back to md, ducking taxes. thats down right anti -federal to me! i love the contradiction, were pro union but anti -tax (made by the union)

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