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    Default cannon carriage paint?

    I know that this has been discussed before but my search has yielded nothing. Where can I get some cannon carriage paint?
    Terry
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    Sir;
    If you have not already, ask on the N-SSA forum, the redlegs in line will email you I am sure the recipe for you to take to your local hardware store. This is a common question and will be easy to accomidate .
    Rick Dennis

    3rd. US "Smithgall's Boys" N-SSA
    U.S. Artillery Reserve Assoc.

    \"Infantry is merely a buffer between two warring armies know as Field Artillery\"

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    Default Carriage Paint recipe

    Sherwin -Williams


    [B]BAC Blend-a- Color 02 32 64 281

    L1 Blue 2 10 - -
    Y3 Deep Gold 2 10 - -
    R2 Maroon - 38 - -
    B1 Black - 12 - -


    Sells for $28.99 a gallon. Hope this helps, We came up with this formula after a LOT of research. First Sergeant Harrison Cherokee Artillery Rome Georgia

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    We use Sherwin Williams too. I am not sure of the paint miz code, as I don't have it in front of me.
    Chris Hubbard
    146th New York
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    John
    Does this formula make that olive Drab, Greenish color? And what do the numbers after the color mean?
    Terry
    Last edited by major; 06-30-2007 at 05:33 PM.
    Terry
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    44th NYVI, N-SSA http://www.n-ssa.org
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    Default Same for Ammo Crates?

    Would this be the same color also for ammo crates? If so, we can kill 2 birds w/ one stone.
    Your Obedient Servant;

    Ben Lenchner
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    Co. A, 97th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry

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    Comrade,

    The official name for the color is "liquid olive", and the 1862 Ordnance Manual lists the recipe for it on pp170-171.

    It is first made by mixing a quantity of "olive paste" which is then used with other ingredients to create the actual paint. Keep in mind that the original paint was oil-based, and would have a gloss finish. Over time, with exposure to the elements, it would reduce to a semi-gloss, but initially it would be gloss, and I would reccomend you use that style finish and allow it to decay naturally.

    The finish was applied with a lead-color as a primer coat, followed by two coats of the liquid olve (pp176).

    Olive paste is made as follows:
    Yellow ochre, pulverised, 68.0 parts
    Lampblack..................... 1.1 parts
    Boiled oil.......................37.0 parts
    Spirits of turpentine........ 0.4 parts

    Make a thick paste with the ochre and oil, in a paint-pot, and with the lamp black and oil in another; grind them together in small portions and keep the mixture in a tin vessel.
    Liquid Olive Color is made as follows:

    Olive paste....................61.5 parts
    Boiled oil.......................29.5 parts
    Spirits of turpentine........ 5.5 parts
    Dryings......................... 3.5 parts
    Japan varnish................. 2.0 parts

    Stir together in a paint pot
    Alternately, also from the OM,

    Liquid Olive Color

    Yellow Ochre (French).......46.0 parts
    Boiled oil (raw,45parts)......40.0 parts
    Litharge.......................... 5.0 parts
    Lampblack....................... 2.0 parts
    Spirits of turpentine.......... 5.0 parts
    Japan varnish.................. 2.0 parts
    Note: The proportions given are for parts per hundred by weight.

    Let me know if I can be of any further assistance. This is how the Ordnance Manual instructed it's personell to make the colors used on their equipment.

    YES, it IS the same color used on 57 calibre boxes as well as .44 pistol cartridge packing boxes. Other calibres used different colors.

    Respects,
    Tim Kindred
    Medical Mess

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    Default Paint Schemes...

    Quote Originally Posted by TimKindred
    YES, it IS the same color used on 57 calibre boxes as well as .44 pistol cartridge packing boxes. Other calibres used different colors.

    Respects,
    Thank you for the response. That is what I suspected.
    Your Obedient Servant;

    Ben Lenchner
    Pvt.
    Co. A, 97th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry

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