+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 3 1 2 3 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 26

Thread: How Do You Seal Your Arsenal Packs?

Hybrid View

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Esperance, NY
    Posts
    1,992

    Default How Do You Seal Your Arsenal Packs?

    This just occurred to me as I was sitting there making up cartridges the other night and setting up the printer to print labels on the Arsenal packs.

    Ok, now that I've folded it all together, what makes it stick together? Glue? If so what would be an appropriate era glue? Or is it just twine and should I be using cotton or hemp?

    Suggestions and opinions welcome.
    Bob Sandusky
    Co C 125th NYSVI
    Esperance, NY

    "Out beyond the ideas of wrong doing and right doing there is a field. I'll meet you there." -
    Mawlana Jalal ad-Din Muhammad Balkhi

    "If you find yourself in a fair fight, someone screwed up." - A new variation of Murphy's Law based on current Military experience in Iraq:

    “In war the first principle is to disobey orders. Any fool can obey orders!” - First Sea Lord Admiral Sir “Jackie” Fisher

  2. #2

    Default

    Duct Tape...I just use a tiny touch of glue with a glue stick, works fine.
    Last edited by Western Blue Belly; 06-05-2007 at 01:00 PM.
    Ken Zimmer

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Memphis suburbs
    Posts
    748

    Default

    Ken,

    Was it popular to use branch color duct tape for that extra edge in authenticity, such as red for artillery, green for sharpshooters, and yellow for, well, perhaps this is beyond the pale.
    Roger "Rog" Johns

    ...you end up with Outpost 2007, which featured one handed mounted cav carbine firing whilst on the move...a CSA cav charge against an inf company that resulted in some captured feds (and we didn't even get to eat the presumably shredded horses)...company's manuevering as seperate battalions...a waste of ammo powder burning night fight. - RJ

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bath, Maine
    Posts
    463

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    Ken,

    Was it popular to use branch color duct tape for that extra edge in authenticity, such as red for artillery, green for sharpshooters, and yellow for, well, perhaps this is beyond the pale.

    Ah heck Ken,

    Just make the whole cartridge outta duct tape. That way you can reload 'em.....

    Respects,
    Tim Kindred
    Medical Mess

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jul 2006
    Posts
    3,151

    Default

    My understanding also is that the packages were simply tied off with string. I am given also to understand that Federal packages were also shipped without labels.
    "A world without string is chaos."
    Rob Weaver
    Pine River Boys, Co I, 7th Wisconsin
    "We're... Christians, what read the Bible and foller what it says about lovin' your enemies and carin' for them what despitefully use you -- that is, after you've downed 'em good and hard."
    -Si Klegg and His Pard Shorty

  6. #6

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by TimKindred
    Ah heck Ken,

    Just make the whole cartridge outta duct tape. That way you can reload 'em.....

    Respects,

    But what will I then do with my penny rolls?
    Ken Zimmer

  7. #7

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    Ken,

    Was it popular to use branch color duct tape for that extra edge in authenticity, such as red for artillery, green for sharpshooters, and yellow for, well, perhaps this is beyond the pale.

    Of course it was! However one must be very careful to make certain that the Duct Tape service stripe closing pack follows the manuals to the letter. Color and stickability must be spot on which may require a trip to Lowes for your Duct Tape supply rather then the lesser expensive and lesser authentic brands found at Wal-Mart....I really need to go to bed now. I'm putting WAY to much thought into this..!
    Ken Zimmer

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Western Pennsylvania
    Posts
    353

    Default Tube rolling party

    To add authenticity I ignore modern child labor laws and make my Eighth grade students roll empty tubes for my pards. Actually, I use it in a series of lessons on labor and working conditions in the nineteenth century. Hands-on economics/history lesson. Many thirteen to eighteen year old girls worked at the Allegheny Arsenal in Pittsburgh (pettite fingers could get the bullet seated well). Of the eighty-four victims killed in the explosion (9-17-62, ironic date?) almost twenty were girls under twenty-one years old.
    Peter Kappas, reenactor
    63rd PVI Co. C
    Freedom, PA

  9. #9
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bath, Maine
    Posts
    463

    Default

    Comrades,

    Actually, if you follow the directions from the Ordnance Department and use a bundling jig when putting up the bundles, then all you need for proper closure is the string tied around it. Works like a champ.

    One other thing I would strongly suggest to those who roll their own, is to have your messmates over for a cartridge rolling party.

    Back in the day, we'd have 6-10 fellows get together with all the materials, and make up 2-3 thousand rounds at a time. With one or two cutting trapezoida, then one or two rolling and tying off tubes, a couple more filling, closing, etc, it goes very fast. Every so often you switch stations so as to not get too tired doing repetitive tasks.

    Once you get the rounds made up, then reset everything and start bundling them and stacking in a wooden ammunition packing box.

    The arsenals long ago figured out the best way to make up cartridges for efficiency of time and materials.

    Respects,
    Tim Kindred
    Medical Mess

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Sep 2006
    Location
    South of Canada, mostly
    Posts
    947

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by bob 125th nysvi
    This just occurred to me as I was sitting there making up cartridges the other night and setting up the printer to print labels on the Arsenal packs.
    I've never heard of Civil War-era rifle-musket ammunition packs having labels on them. The wooden crate they came in was labeled--there was no need to label the individual packs of 10 rounds.

+ Reply to Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts