+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 15

Thread: Which is Better?

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
    Location
    Georgetown ,Kentucky
    Posts
    142

    Default Which is Better?

    I'm still deciding which to buy, so I really need yall's help. Shelter half or wedge tent?

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Central New York
    Posts
    372

    Default

    Two shelter halves.

    That way, you can buddy up or go solo.
    Yours most respectfully, your obedient servant,

    R. L. ("Rob") Griffiths.
    Company "G", 157th N.Y. Vols.
    Forum member since November 17th, 2004.

    "I am not aware of ever having used a profane expletive in my life, but I would have the charity to excuse those who may have done so, if they were in charge of a train of Mexican pack mules at the time." - U. S. Grant

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Newark, OH
    Posts
    409

    Default

    This totaly depends on what type of events you will be attending and what years the types of events you are going to intend to portray. The shelter half or "dog tent" was not invented until late, late '61 and was not distributed until mid '62 and was not mass distributed to the point of a mainstay until late '62, of course withmost anything else these dates can be argued to an end that we do not totaly know the exactdates,theseare just rough estimates.

    As we are heading into the 145 anniverseries of '62 events I would suggest purchasing a correctly constructed "A" tent,as they would have been more prevelant in this time period. However I would also reccomend that you secure the funds to purchase a shelter half or two at some point during the year so next year with the 145 anneverseries of '63 you will be prepaired for.

    Ofcourse most mainstream events do allow leway on such things and they usually tend toattempt a portrayal of a battle that didnot actualy take placeduring the years anneversary happenings, if any at all.

    So it boils down to if you will be doing mainstream events, pick a tent that will accomodate your needs best, and if you will be leaning more torwards progession identify the events you will be attending and what would be appropriate for the time.
    _____________________________________________

    Patrick R. Skeese
    30th OVI Co.B
    www.30thovi.com
    The Darby Creek Boys
    www.darbycreekboys.webs.com
    Western Federal Blues
    http://www.westernfederalblues.org/

    Jurgitem Valetem

    - "Of all the words both tongue and pen, the saddest of all are what might have been."

    -"Age my gear? What? What, do these people shop for bald tires too"? Spence Waldron, CWR discussion forum, July '08

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    Chicago, IL
    Posts
    86

    Default

    What side and unit are you portraying? Your answers are in the quartermaster records.
    I am, Your Obediant Servant,
    Riley Ewen

    Old Northwest Volunteers
    Western Independent Grays
    Prodigal Sons Mess

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Posts
    216

    Default

    Shelter half is good if your looking for light and quick. Also, if you are portraying a campaigning soldier. But, if you have a cot, cooler, or items that are non-period your better bet is a A frame because you can close it up and hide everything from the public view.
    Courtney Abel

    Lee Takes Command
    June 16th & 17th

    http://www.leetakescommand.com/

    Maryland my Maryland
    September 8th & 9th
    http://www.marylandmymaryland.org/

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Memphis suburbs
    Posts
    748

    Default

    Get a three panel shelter half and use it only when needed. If you get a common tent or wall tent you will quickly find yourself filling it will all matter of modern junk. The more junk you have to move about the less fun you have.
    Roger "Rog" Johns

    ...you end up with Outpost 2007, which featured one handed mounted cav carbine firing whilst on the move...a CSA cav charge against an inf company that resulted in some captured feds (and we didn't even get to eat the presumably shredded horses)...company's manuevering as seperate battalions...a waste of ammo powder burning night fight. - RJ

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Esperance, NY
    Posts
    1,992

    Default Better

    is a shelter half.

    It is lighter, goes well in the knapsack and can be just wrapped up in instead of set up if you don't feel like it.

    As pointed out it is appropriate for a 'genric' portrayal for three years of the war.

    If you can only afford 1, I'd suggest the shelter half (you and a pard should order them together from the same vendor that way there is at least a 50% chance they'll fit together exactly right) and if you're at an event where it isn't appropriate then bunk with somebody who has a correct tent or rough it.
    Bob Sandusky
    Co C 125th NYSVI
    Esperance, NY

    "Out beyond the ideas of wrong doing and right doing there is a field. I'll meet you there." -
    Mawlana Jalal ad-Din Muhammad Balkhi

    "If you find yourself in a fair fight, someone screwed up." - A new variation of Murphy's Law based on current Military experience in Iraq:

    “In war the first principle is to disobey orders. Any fool can obey orders!” - First Sea Lord Admiral Sir “Jackie” Fisher

  8. #8
    Join Date
    Oct 2006
    Location
    Memphis suburbs
    Posts
    748

    Default

    I forgot to mention a good book about shelter halves is The Federal Civil War Shelter Tent by Frederick C. Gaede. It was published by O'Donnell Publications back in 2001.
    Roger "Rog" Johns

    ...you end up with Outpost 2007, which featured one handed mounted cav carbine firing whilst on the move...a CSA cav charge against an inf company that resulted in some captured feds (and we didn't even get to eat the presumably shredded horses)...company's manuevering as seperate battalions...a waste of ammo powder burning night fight. - RJ

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2006
    Location
    The Heart Of Dixie
    Posts
    172

    Talking shelter half

    I would buy a good shelter half with the sewn grommet's, at the very least. If you have more money to spend get both halfs.
    Derrick Pugh

    Western Independent Grays
    S.C.A.R.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    May 2006
    Location
    Bath, Maine
    Posts
    463

    Default

    Comrade,

    Your choice actually depends more upon whether you are portraying Federal or Confederate.

    As a Federal, from the fall of 1862 on you will carry a shelter half. That's all you need, plus, of course, a blanket and a rubber or painted groundcloth.

    For Confederates, the majority of the time on campaign they had nothing but tent flys, if that. The Confederacy produced so few shelter halfs that they are considered negligible in appearance. Their were the occasional use of captured ones, but that was primarily after the spring of '63, so that limits use as well.

    Time after time, account after account, letter after letter, the Confederates all speak of camping under the stars with a blanket and a ground cloth to roll up in. Why don't we see more of that? Why do we see entire cities of wedge tents?

    The most common tentage found amongst Confederate units would be the tent fly, used to make a shelter for several soldiers to sleep under. These were reasonably light enough that one man could carry it, with his blankets if need be, but often just carrying the fly, and one or more of his comrades carrying his blanket(s) and ground cloth for him. That load could be switched around from day to day, each man taking a turn.

    If you want something to use year round, from the war's beginning to the end, then there will be no single solution for you. Wedge tents were there, of course, but they were issued 1 tent per 5 men. They were also discarded by the Federals after fall 1862 for campaigns, the shelter tents being introduced for easier packing. The wedge tents could be (and were) reissued for rear areas and for winter camps.

    For CS usage, well, like I said, in rear areas and such you would find a variety of wedge tents, bell tents, some wall tents, etc, but on the march, it was mostly tent flys or nothing.

    A good winter project for you and your comrades might well be to make a tent fly and share it during the season. Realistic, flexible, and a lot less expensive than a wedge tent.

    Sorry to ramble, but honestly, there is no "one-size-fits-all" answer to your question.

    Respects,
    Tim Kindred
    Medical Mess

+ Reply to Thread

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts