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    Been looking into Smith Carbine cartridge casings. I have found the brass, the orange plastic with the brass touch hole, and two types of the common rubber/plastic black jobs. What I am trying to find is a place to get the high power metal ones that appear to be some sort of stainless/silver looking things. Any notions where these come from? You NSSA guys probably see them at the shoots!

    Further, have any of you attempted to make/use the cardboard/foil ones?



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    Hallo!

    No, but...

    If one makes an "authentic" post 1859 "New Style" Sharps cartridge, a cloned Smith version is close enough to work just fine.

    Curt
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    I was sent a PM saying that the casing I was asking about is available through Dixie Gun Works, is aluminum, and holds the maximum powder load.
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    What is the maximum charge? Just looked at their website and found the aluminum cases ($3.75 each) but they don't provide a powder capacity. Their brass cases hold 30 grains
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    I have read that the brass casings hold up to 40 grains of fffg and the aluminum ones up to 50 grains. I have also read that a lighter charge offers most accurate results. 27 to 28 grains.

    You folks who know be sure to join in....looks like two of us need educated!

    Harry
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    Hallo!

    Are you looking for the Period Smith charge?

    My N-SSA competition Smith was sighted in for 50 yards using 36 grains of FFF. My wife's competition Smith was sighted in for 50 yards at 30 grains of FFF. (Moving the sliding rear sight ladder kicked it up to the 100 yard targets.)

    I am sure others can be sighted in at different charges, as once I found our particular barrel's tightest group there was no need to experiment further in the sighting-in process. But yes, that is an N-SSA competition concept and not a Period equivalent load or a load well suited for reenacting blanks.

    So, others' mileage will vary...

    Curt
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    Yes, I'm curious about the period charge. I don't do competitions but
    I do love to shoot. Haven't got my Smith yet. I'll be trying out many
    different loads though
    Kevin Barnes
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    Hallo!

    Two specimens analyzed by Brig. Gen. John Pitman circa 1909 showed:

    (India) Rubber case: 50.48 grains

    Metallic aka "Foil" (paper wrapped foil) case: 52.25 grains.

    Curt
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    Thanks Curt
    Kevin Barnes
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