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    Hello All,

    I live in Arizona and I am attending the 149th Gettysburg Reenactment. I usually drive to events but this time I am flying. I need some advice about getting my Springfield to PA. I have a sister who lives just outside of Gettysburg. Can I ship my Springfield directly to her or do I need to go through a local licensed gun dealer?

    Obviously, I will be buying powder and rolling my cartridges once I get there, but
    I am concerned about taking my uniform and accoutrements in checked luggage. Do I need to notify the TSA that I have items that may have black powder residue on them? I am sure if they do a security swip test on my bag it may come up positive for explosives. Would I be better off shipping my whole kit rather than trying to take it on a plane? How do you travel by air in this hobby?

    Thanks,

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    Other more knowledgeable folks will chime in on the weapons shipping issue. I do know that Silas ships his whole kit to himself for pickup at a UPS facility, so it can be done. Due to regulations involved, there's a way to do this, and it does not require an FFL.
    I'll speak specifically on air travel. In the last decade, I've flown 2-4 times a year to events, both in 1860 and in other time periods where I'm more exposed to powder.

    If you ship your whole kit ahead, good for you. Allow plenty of time for it to get there and insure the heck out of it. If it gets lost in shipping, you want the funds to replace it.

    I fly in period dress, because if I get there and my luggage does not, my event is ruined. I would not recommend this for a man in uniform, though a man with period civilian clothes would be a more doable situation. I allow 2 hours to clear security, whether I'm wearing or have period clothing in my carry on. I'm quiet, respectful, and very careful to follow directions. My home airport knows me, so it's a little easier there.

    Checked luggage usually has things like my bedroll. Again, I allow an extra hour just in case the packed items warrant extra scrutiny. I leave a large note inside the case that explains the living history items and gunpowder residue. Based on the little notes TSA leaves, my luggage is searched about half the time. I've yet to loose anything, but some carelessly repacked items have been broken. I do not pack a black powder weapon, though I have checked some nasty big bladed weapons. My luggage has always arrived on the same flight, but I do use a carrier that normally has direct flights.

    Much of my planning and decision making comes from instructions given by a family member who flys frequently for Rev War events, and who was a trainer for TSA in the early years of the agency.

    There is risk in any choice, checking, carry-on, or shipping ahead. Think ahead on what you will do if you arrive and your stuff does not.
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    Take your box with well packaged weapon and some of your other gear shoved in for good measure to a UPS Customer Center, not an outlet or a store but a Customer Center. You can find them online by going to UPS's webpage for a location near you.

    Ship it by UPS Ground. From West Coast to East Coast, the travel time is four or five business days.

    Ship it to a different UPS Customer Center near where you are going or somewhere on the route you will be taking when you're back east. Gettysburg has a UPS customer center in case you're wondering. Been there. Been to the one in Buckeysville, MD, too. You're actually going to ship it to yourself care of the UPS customer center of your choice. They refer to it as a "hold for pick-up." Some UPS customer centers have limited pick-up hours so you should look at their schedule before sending.

    They will hold it for five business days. Bring your ID because they won't release it to you without it. By shipping it to yourself, you don't have to worry about UPS leaving it at someone's front door and someone else walking away with it.

    I like my stuff to arrive by the Tuesday before a weekend reenactment. To the East Coast, I generally ship on the Tuesday a week before a reenactment because it's a five business day trip from the West Coast. This gives them a couple extra days to get it where it needs to be.

    I've been shipping my gear and weapons this way for more than ten years. In declaring your weapon in your packing description, please note that it's an "antique muzzle loading musket." UPS and other agencies get weird about modern, cartridge based, breach loading rifles because the rules are different for antique verses modern weapons. I ship my rounds and caps with my weapon but always double or triple wrap them in plastic bags.

    Don't write GUN, GUN, GUN all over the box. UPS will attach plenty of fragile stickers on it for you if you ask - which you should.

    When you go home, ship it back to yourself the same way you got it there. I always make a double thick box and go through lots of clear packing tape to make sure the box is strong and can be reused. (Just tape over the dents incurred from the original shipping trip.) Don't forget to include packing tape with your luggage. That way you'll have it when you need it later.

    Cost each was is thirty five to fifty dollars depending on how much other stuff you throw into the box. You should ship your blanket, shelter half and gum blanket with your musket as they make swell packaging when you wrap them around the weapon.
    Silas Tackitt

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    does ups have containers to pack a musket. my box has fallen apart years ago and i may need to ship a rifle myself.

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    Silas,

    That was an excellent post and I appreciate the detailed information you gave.
    Dan Biggs

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    Howdy!

    I do not know about UPS terminals, but the "UPS stores" can make a cardboard box and bubble wrap the musket for a "charge."

    IMHO, though, and based upon a one time recent "unpleasant outcome" out of many many successful ones... be sure to insure it. (Some boxes arrive looking like they were a football, or in the Highland games caber toss.)

    While individual states and particularly local jurisdictions may vary, NUG CW muzzleloading firearms are not "firearms" under federal and most state laws. However, local UPS office workers and managers sometimes may not be aware of their own company policies and give you "grief."
    And TSA and snififing dogs are required to "fuss" about residue swipes, scans, and dog sniffs.

    Curt
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    Dan, it wasn't that good a post. I noticed a few typos from over editing my post. As far as substance, it pretty much states what I have done many times over. It's only scary the first time you ship. After that, it's no big deal.

    "Cardshark," just make your own custom box. I get mine from bins at industrial parks. The last one I shipped had a prior life holding a brand new water heater. You can create the exact sized box you need with a little imagination, an exacto knife and lots of packing tape. Make a sleeve from extra cardboard to fit inside the box. This is how I create a double thick box which can withstand shipping to where I'm going and back.
    Silas Tackitt

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    "Authenticity conflicts occur when reenactors from one end of the spectrum attend events at the other end of the spectrum then try to impose their own standards instead of event standards."

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    Box? if you can't make you own, UPS stores sell boxes used to ship ski's. They work just fine, along with the proper packing materials for muskets.
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    I've flown with firearms any number of times with no problem -- even into New Jersey, where just saying "firearm" is probably a criminal offense. See the link to TSA guidelines. Follow them explicitly and you shouldn't have any issues.

    http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm
    Last edited by Ephraim_Zook; 05-19-2012 at 10:30 PM. Reason: forgot the link :-(
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    Hey all,
    New here, I think I joined many years ago but then lost my sign in info, changed email addresses etc. I don't want to hijack the thread, but had a question about shipping a Springfield as well, and figured there was no sense in creating a new thread. Would anyone be able to tell me the rules and regulations for shipping a musket to someone else? I.E. someone you've sold it to. Obviously you couldn't ship it to yourself to pick up like the original poster could. Do you have to go through a gun broker? I did a few Google searches and couldn't find what I was looking for. The reason I ask is that a little over 7 years ago I bought an 1861 Springfield and was planning on getting into the reenacting scene. I was in high school at the time, we had just moved to FreKdericksburg, VA, and I had been a huge fan of CW history since elementary school, so it seemed like a good thing to do. High school sports came along, got busy, went off to college and majored in history, and am now in grad school needing money. Surprise huh? I still love Civil War history, but I figured it was time to part with my Springfield since I don't see myself having the time to get into reenacting anytime soon, and its a shame for the gun to lay around in my room unused. I rejoined the forum with the intention of selling it here, then realized the forum rules do not allow one to sell an item until a certain number of posts are reached. Frankly, I don't know a whole lot about reenacting so I do not believe I can get to that number. Even though I can't contribute, I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could quickly explain the shipping rules for muskets to me. Shipping issues were my first concern when I first thought of selling. Thankyou all
    Andrew

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