Counterfeit Confederate Bills

[nast t]

I don't know if this is the right thread for this. I have two Counterfeit Confederate Bills and they seem to made of vellum or rice paper.
I was at the Nashville Relic Show in 1994 and was told they are worthless. Now I hear they worth something is there a contact or someone on Forum who can respond.
I will post images of the bills on tonight.

[gwagner]

Original Counterfeit Confederate bills are not worthless.

Not saying yours is...but these sell on ebay in this range regularly.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1864-100-Con...item2ebc1de118

[Frederick14Va]

Nast
.. True period counterfeit confederate currency has its own market value. Much depends on which specific note the counterfeit is of. Some of them actually have higher values than the original genuine note, depending on the type. beyond the first year series of notes which many were printed on common paper made by various printers... beyond that most all were printed on good quality bank note paper... not vellum or rice paper...

Counterfeit not to be confused with reproductions or fakes. Plenty of those out there.. including what we call the theatrical notes... and the Cheerio Notes... back in the 1950s they put these in cereal boxes intended as a collect them all series... These now with a little age on them frequently turn up thought to be originals... or counterfeits. If you can provide a clear scan of both front AND back of the note in question I should be able to assist. (Have been collecting obsolete southern state and CS Govt notes and bonds over 30 years)

[nast t]

I know the bills are over 50 years old they belong to my Father. They do not have backs to them and they have red in the art Richmond $10.

[Frederick14Va]

Nast
.. What you have there is a counterfeit/reproduction of the Confederate "T-22" type currency note. It is also refered to as the Indian family note due to the central image it contains. The genuine note is quite valuable. Samuel Upham produced a crude woodcut counterfeit that was mass produced. These were printed during the war, but unfortunately they were also mass produced as collectables post-war. The originals were quite fine detailed, the counterfeits/reproductions were made from woodcuts and are typically rather crude detailed. These also normally found with printed signatures. Original period notes had hand signed signatures. Difficult to determine if yours is a war time period counterfeit or post war copy reproduction since they used and/or were based on the same Upham printing. To the serious currency collector these in particular wouldnt have much of any value. Some folks collect counterfeits and fakes as a novice hobby, thus any market value on these would be nominal at best and varies depending on the given market interest at the time.

[nast t]

Thanks for the information Lt., that is quite interesting history on the bills. Good to know they are just not a waste of paper too. I might put them on ebay since they just set in one of my books.

[GaWildcat]

So what do you want to do today young man, pawn em or sell em? LOL, sorry coulndt help it

[nast t]

LOL. Well I like to sell em. Well I don't know I would have to get them framed, it would take up too much real estate, economy is soft now, Heh Old Man come here.

[Frederick14Va]

"Chumley.... your workin the night shift..."

[nast t]

Awesomeeeeeeeeee