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    Default Shelter tent

    In the process of attempting to improve my impression on a budget and stop carrying more canvas than the USS Constitution, I am looking for a couple of shelter tents. Any ideas on who makes a good shelter tent without costing as much as an A-frame?
    Cpl. Jason Hemphill
    Ala-Sippi Rifles
    15th Ms Co.K/25th Al Co.E
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    Cut your baggage even more -- soldiers were issued only "a" shelter half (although some found ways to get a second half). Team up with a pard who has another half and you will have a practically-instant tent. Or button it with others' halves to create a shebang of grander proportions. Or affix your half to a fence rail, parallel trees or whatever. Skip adding triangle end panels -- difficult to find documentation of their availability.
    A good rubber blanket should be of a higher priority.
    Cheers.

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    As a topic near and dear to me, a shelter tent reproduction is either right, or its wrong. Right costs money, and wrong is cheap. You must decide where your compromises are and go from there. Type in the term "shelter tent" in the search bar above and you'll find several threads where we go into detail about what makes a shelter half "right" or "wrong". When you use the term "good shelter tent", you are implying that you want one that is correct in pattern, material, and construction and unfortunately you WILL find that it costs almost as much as an incorrectly made sutler row common tent (A-frame) due to the cost of correct material and labor involved in creating it. You can buy an incorrect shelter half for $29 from many mainstream sutlers, and it will look right from a few dozen yards, but it won't be right. Or you can go with the correctly made ones for $100+ from the vendors who take the time to do it right. The hobby is about choices, and this is one you've got to make on your own (with a little research and time to evaluate_
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    I would suggest

    Joe Blunt (order throgh email listed on site)
    http://carterandjasper.com/

    Wamabuagh and White
    http://www.wwandcompany.com/index.ph...shelter-halves

    or

    Ross Lamoreaux

    All make great products of proper materials, techniques, and have the proper stamps.
    Brandon Hand
    48th NY CO. F
    Middleburg Fl.

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    The huge amount of work in a correct shelter half drives up the price---with the compensation being that it also drives up the resale value.

    Incorrect ones--well frankly, they are hard to give away. Used to be, I took a lot of marginal gear in trade on custom work, and turned it to the loaner box or the reenactor yard sale. The poorly made shelter halfs rarely matched up properly with others when it came time to build a big shebang. Nobody wanted the marginal ones, not even when I had both sides. Canvas weight was often wrong and they just were not worth the carry weight. I finally threw the buttons in the box, did some judicious mending, slapped a coat of linseed and pigment on the canvas, and added another floorcloth to my stash.

    It's an amazing thing to hear the order given to Erect Canvas and to see correctly made shelter halves come out of packs, button together flawlessly, and get strung on hemp line within minutes, before the big downpour hits. Ten, twenty, or more men under one long wide shebang whiling away the hour or so with song and cards and a little coffee boiling in a sheltered corner. Across the way, a couple of cooks kept the big cook fire burning in the flood with another half overhung, though we were not nearly as dry as the men in their house of halves and oilcloth.
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    Default If you're interested...

    Jason,
    I make early-war (Type II-A) shelter halves to raise money for the preservation of our flag in the MoC.

    They are made from cotton drill (lighter weight than duck and more period correct) per a period correct pattern. I showed the pattern I use to Ross a few months back and he 'blessed' it (hope you don't mind me using your endorsement Ross...).

    The 2 tent stake loops are hemp rope, the corners are reinforced with natural linen, the 23 button holes are hand-sewn, the rope holes and grommet holes are all hand-sewn with waxed linen thread and the 23 buttons are 4-hole dark-brown bone buttons. The only thing I don't provide are the poles.

    Here is an old post I had in the Sutler Row area with pictures of my old shelters (http://www.cwreenactors.com/forum/sh...ets&highlight=). The difference between those pictures and the selters I make now is the weight of the canvas, I now use bone instead of tin buttons, and I now use linen in the corners instead of ticking. I can send you current pictures if you like.

    I sell them for $65 shipped and I believe I still have one completed half in stock.
    For the amount of work that goes into these, $65 is a steal - but I consider my time spent as a donation to the preservation effort.

    PM me if you're interested...
    Matt O'Driscoll
    1st Regiment KY Volunteers, Co. E

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    Definition - shelter half: one half of a good excuse for getting wet.

    Seriously, if Matt is offering you that shelter half up there for $65.00, snatch it up NOW! That's a steal. Wish I still had my old Rademacher shelter half from oh so many years ago.

    Warren Dickinson

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    Claude Sinclair on this forum makes an awesome shelter. You can get both halves very reasonably.

    I carry one usually, but when I need two to actually setup, I have it.

    E-mail him clsinclair@comporium.net
    Galen Wagner
    Yellowhammer Rifles
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    Montgomery, AL

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    Thank you all for the help and advice. I will take this knowledge received and put it to good use.
    Cpl. Jason Hemphill
    Ala-Sippi Rifles
    15th Ms Co.K/25th Al Co.E
    www.alasippirifles.com

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    While surfing the net in my quest for info on correct shelter halves I came across this article- http://www.lazyjacks.org.uk/dogtent.htm . The writer mentioned that three soldiers would go in together and attach one half (1864 model)to close up one end. How exactly would they do that? I know one side would button together no problem but what about the other side? Sorry if this seems like a stupid question but I have only seen the "farby" triangle end pieces at the dog and pony shows I have been to.
    Cpl. Jason Hemphill
    Ala-Sippi Rifles
    15th Ms Co.K/25th Al Co.E
    www.alasippirifles.com

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