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    I am looking for the following manual to add to my collection of Drum manuals:

    Gardner 1780
    Issac Day ( Isaac Days 1st Book) 1797
    Clark (Benjamin Clarks Drum Book)
    Robbins Drum and Fife Instructor 1812
    Simpson & Canterburg (The Union Drum and Fife Book)
    Tamplini (The Drum Major) 1880

    Thanks!

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    Clark - beafifer.com. If they are sold out, let me know.
    Robbins - Ray Hauley (missing a couple pages) or beafifer.com
    Simpson & Canterbury - I have a PDF of this I can send you
    Tamplini - George Carroll (www.ropedrum.com). Let me know if you get a copy. My photocopy is missing a few pages including the one with Dixie.

    Send me a PM with your email address and I'll forward you that Simpson & Canterbury PDF.

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    Still looking for the following and any other manuals ppl can recommend.

    Gardner 1780
    Issac Day ( Isaac Days 1st Book) 1797
    Clark (Benjamin Clarks Drum Book)
    Simpson & Canterburg (The Union Drum and Fife Book)
    Tamplini (The Drum Major) 1880

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    Here's a great PDF of drummer's call through the centuries and a reference to Tamplini:

    http://brtdesignportfolio.com/88th/w...01780-1880.pdf

    Since this is a Brit book, how are your search efforts in Canada and England going?
    RJ Samp
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    Hi! New to the Forum. Please forgive me if these items are already familiar to you.

    Not a manual, as such. If I remember correctly, found at Carlisle Barracks and passed along by a member of the 2nd Md.

    Title: "The duty of the United States Army". Photocopies of original manuscripts on staff paper about 10.5" x 14", in several different hands. Some of the names: "Sergt. Charles Henke", "Sergt. M[ichael] Moore", "Ft. Columbus, NY". On-line sources mention these men as instructors at Governor's Island.

    Also "G. Browning, DM 2nd Artillery" and "Wm. L. B---?" (last name missing, off the page). And then "Gen. [Sylvester?] Churchill" (US Army Inspector General 1841-1861) and "Maj. A[lbemarle] Cady, 6th US Inf'y", although it seems the Major's unit was stationed on the West Coast during this period.

    There are 30+ fife tunes, but (frustratingly) only 3 have beats with them. Some interesting points: "The Star-Spangled Banner" is marked as a Troop. In the Revielle, meas. 1-8 of the "The Hessian" tune (B+E, p.32) appear as a separate number with the title "Tin Kettle", then meas. 9-16 have the "Hessian" title. The tune marked "Dead March" is the one we know today as "Hark, the Herald Angels Sing"(!).

    I've scanned in some pages, but my preview isn't visible to me. I suppose I'll be prevented from adding these until some time passes, but when I'm able, I'll continue...

    Regards,

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    Sure enough, Anachreon in Heaven (the Star Spangled Banner) can be used as a Troop.....the waltz arrangement is a fun piece to play......it has the three phrases in pairs (A-A, B-B, C-C), unlike today's version that's two pairs and a single phrase (A-A, B-B, C).
    RJ Samp
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJSamp View Post
    Sure enough, Anachreon in Heaven (the Star Spangled Banner) can be used as a Troop.....the waltz arrangement is a fun piece to play......it has the three phrases in pairs (A-A, B-B, C-C), unlike today's version that's two pairs and a single phrase (A-A, B-B, C).
    Huh?

    'splain please....

    The B section is repeated?

    Thanks
    Jari Villanueva
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    Here are the first two pages of the manuscript Ed has kindly provided. The first thing I noticed was the similarity to Strube's 1869 manual for the first 3 tunes of the reveille. So I have also attached a side by side comparison of 3 Camps, Slow Scotch and Austrian. The Hessian is nearly identical to the version that is pretty much universal to all the other manuals except B&E and Hart. The Dutch and Quick Scotch have a couple variations from the "standard" versions.

    I will upload the others and share what else I know shortly.

    Sue Cifaldi believes this manuscript was prepared in 1858.

    HENKE_1_THREE_CAMPS-SLOW_SCOTCH-AUSTRIAN-TIN_KETTLE.jpgHENKE_2_HESSIAN-DUTCH-QUICK_SCOTCH-YANKEE_DOODLE_NATIONAL_AIR.jpghenke-strube-comparison.jpg
    Last edited by 33rdaladrummer; 03-09-2012 at 10:00 AM.

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    Page 10:

    "Respectfully forwarded to Gen. [Sylvester] Churchill...[by]A. Cady.

    Sergt. C. Henke, Instructor of Fife
    Sergt. M. Moore, Instructor of Drum

    Ft. Columbus, New York, N.Y."

    Charles Henke and Michael "Daddy" Moore were instructors at Gov. Island for decades. Churchill wanted to revise Scott's Tactics-- that was the impetus for this manuscript of camp duty for the fife.

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