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    Default Wheat"s Tiger impression

    I am currently trying to put together a Wheat's Tiger impression. Any advise,information,etc would be greatly welcome. My first thought is the straw hat vs. the fez. Is one more correct than the other? Would it be the sailor or the plantation type?

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    Before you purchase anything, send a PM to Rachel Kelly (79th New York on this forum). She and Shane Miles have come together and through their research and sources for quality materials can get you the right info and the right gear. Don't look at what reenactors and sutlers are doing, go directly to the source and get the right info and stuff.
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    Forgive my ignorance, what is the best way to Rachel Kelly?

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    PM stands for Personal Message. As I mentioned, she goes by the name 79th New York on this forum. Find that name by utilizing the member list or by utlilizing the search function above and look for the link for sending messages once you've found it
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    Hello All,
    If any information is being given out ref. what Co. B of Wheat's Spec. Batt. Tiger Rifles had I hope they will put it out publicly for all to hear.

    As a lad I was a VIP at Manassas Battlefield Park and was there when they found to two soldiers in Centerville believed to be two of Wheat's Tigers. I was also part of a team that help put together a reproduction Uniform and Kit for doing Living History at the Park, and have reveiwed all the information i can find on the Tiger Rifles.
    If there is any new information i would love to hear about it!
    "In the heat of battle it ceases to be an idea for which we fight... or a flag. Rather... we fight for the man on our left and we fight for the man on our right... and when armies have scattered and when the empires fall away... all that remains is the memory
    of those precious moments... we spent side by side."

    Paul Bennett

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    Paul,

    Contact me through my e-mail connection.
    I maybe able to put you into contact with someone who may put you into direct contact with an individual who was involved with the exhumation of these two grave sites.
    Yes, I know this is all third party BS, but neither of these other persons will post anything on this forum or any others for that matter.
    Blair

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    Hallo!

    Yes...

    A lot of unnecessary heat and grief was generated when the graves revealed a different "view" of their uniforms than was being used by reenactors at the time (EX: blue instead of brown jackets and horizontal versus vertical sock stripes).



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    I do not portray a Civil War soldier, I merely interpret one.

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    There's a an excellent article on the Tigers that anyone interested in the uniforms and equipage of this unique organization should read by Ross Brooks called "Part Irish and the Rest Flower of Southern Chivalry." It can be found at the top of the links on this site:
    http://www.acws.net/tigers/morehistory.htm

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    Curt,

    You are absolutely correct.

    The exhumation of these two graves reveled evidence, that contradicted the "surviving eyewitness, written documents" that had survived from that period.
    By the time of the 125 1st. Bull Run, most of the Wheat's Special Batt. had their uniforms, based on this evidence, spot on for the event. Most of these guys during the 125th came from the N-SSA, but did not turn anyone away that was trying to do the impression right.

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    We did alot of reading setting out on the Tiger project. The lack of images and the conflicting sources was frustrating but I feel we did it justice.

    In the Warren letters for example, their trousers are described as:
    Their britches were pinchbecks (baggy pantaloons) made of pillow ticking. This pillow ticking had a wide blue stripe, with a red and yellow pin stripe (teazel) ,this was symbolic of the Louisiana Republic Flag.
    All other accounts describe the trousers as simply blue and white stripped. William Todd of Company B, 79th New York describes the over all uniform as:

    "Considerable astonishment as well as amusement was caused by the presence in our retreating ranks of a solitary prisoner, who plodded along with us and entertained us by his quaint remarks. His uniform attracted our attention ; a Zouave cap of red, and jacket of blue, with baggy trousers made of blue and white striped material, and white leggings, gave him a rather rakish appearance; he announced himself as a member of the Louisiana Tiger battalion, Major Wheat commanding. This particular "Tiger" seemed to be of a very mild disposition, and took his captivity in good part; he was "glad the Yankees were whipped," and was sure our defeat and his side's victory '' would result in the establishment of the independence of the Southern Confederacy." In the confusion of crossing Cub Run, however, our prisoner disappeared; he no doubt rejoined his friends and regaled them with his experience while a prisoner in the hands of the Yankees."

    79th New York Regimental History - Pg. 44
    Beyond the trousers, The coat was taken from descriptions and illustrations, the shirt we made is not pictured. Trousers, fez, leggings, stockings, belt, buckle, haversack, we all made with research leading the way.

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    We are are going to continue to offer the complete uniform as a kit. If anyone has any input on tweeks and changes, I would love to hear about them!

    Kit:
    • Fez
    • Jacket
    • Shirt
    • Belt
    • Buckle
    • Trousers
    • Leggings
    • Stocks
    • Haversack
    Rachel Kelly
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    R.L.Kelly / S.A.Miles & Co.
    Rachel L. Kelly SEWING79NY@yahoo.com
    Shane A. Miles MILES79NY@aol.com

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