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    Don't stand with a tall guy in front of you, take a hint from all the above posts and consider just how slight the drop is when in safe firing distances, I don't think you need to get fitted for ballet shoes just yet.
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    If my opponent is anything further than 75 yards, I aim to their side, but still level on them, once in that 75 yard range, the barrel goes up untill it gets to about 30 degrees. That elevation is sufficient to ensure that no powder burns are the effect...
    "What? Men dodging this way for single bullets? What will you do when they open fire along the whole line? I am ashamed of you. They couldn't hit an elephant at this distance..." -Gen. John Sedgwick- His last words before being killed by a sniper at the Battle of Spotsylvania.

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    This photo shows the amount of drop for 50 yards, I think it can be done without being launched up in the air like a bottle rocket. It also looks ever so slightly less like you have no idea where the enemy might be or you are desperately protecting yourself from incoming pterodactyls.
    Tom Bramlette


    Glad you asked that question! It is vital to the core of the hobby!
    Fill that rusty canteen with apple cider vinegar, cork it, and leave it in the back of a cool, dark, closet for 16 weeks. That will fix everything.
    Glad to be of service!


    1. All guns are always loaded.
    2. Never point at anything you are not willing to kill.
    3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
    4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    -Jeff Cooper

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    30 degree elevation, look out ducks we have decided a little duck hunting in the middle of a battle would be a good thing.
    Tom Bramlette


    Glad you asked that question! It is vital to the core of the hobby!
    Fill that rusty canteen with apple cider vinegar, cork it, and leave it in the back of a cool, dark, closet for 16 weeks. That will fix everything.
    Glad to be of service!


    1. All guns are always loaded.
    2. Never point at anything you are not willing to kill.
    3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
    4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    -Jeff Cooper

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    I aim center of mass. We are already breaking a major rule of firearm safety in this hobby, there is no way around that, and I won't pretend that slightly aiming to the side/top/bottom suddenly make us safe and following the four rules. If there is debris in the barrel, the flight will be erratic anyways, and by holding the weapon level, the debris will succumb to gravity and hit the ground, rather than elevating the barrel which will make the debris fly farther. The only reason to elevate is if there are people, namely casualties, directly in front, so they are not hit by the cone of muzzle blast.

    The best ways to mitigate the risk of aiming and shooting weapons at each other are to have positive control of what goes in it in the first place, and to have realistic engagement distances. Any other measures are just feel good practices at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flattop32355 View Post
    Well, since most of us are at least 5'7" tall, that skews the data.....
    I chose 5 feet since that is what the previous poster used (and it worked out well for the ratio). If I had used my height of 6'5 I was positive I would have hammered for that.

    BTW, at 6 Feet tall still using 50 yards distance it is a 25 to 1 ratio. So the magic number for the Enfield barrel becomes 1.6" (actually 1.56").

    I still think the powder is staying in the barrel.

    6 feet tall at the "Oregon" 30 yards minimum is a 15 to 1 ratio, so the Enfield barrel would need be canted down 2.6".

    YMMV
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    So aiming low is actually safer than aiming high - why did I never think of that before!?! How can we get the greater portion of our hobby ot accept this heresy? If I'm the only guy doing this in a line, they're going to ask me to leave. Possibly not even politely.
    Rob Weaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by wheres_my_horse
    6 feet tall at the "Oregon" 30 yards minimum is a 15 to 1 ratio, so the Enfield barrel would need be canted down 2.6".

    YMMV
    The otherwise overly safe Oregonians use a distance of thirty FEET, not thirty yards. And this is in a state where you cannot pump your own gas due to safety issues. Really.

    Now, back to the thread.
    Silas Tackitt

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    Unless you are wearing a gun turret for a hat then you need to measure from your shoulder or if you shoot from the hip then from the hip.
    Tom Bramlette


    Glad you asked that question! It is vital to the core of the hobby!
    Fill that rusty canteen with apple cider vinegar, cork it, and leave it in the back of a cool, dark, closet for 16 weeks. That will fix everything.
    Glad to be of service!


    1. All guns are always loaded.
    2. Never point at anything you are not willing to kill.
    3. Keep your finger off the trigger until your sights are on target.
    4. Be sure of your target and what is beyond it.
    -Jeff Cooper

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    I like the notion of confusing spectators.

    They won't notice the inconsistencies of our kit, age or girth then. It's a viable way to go, folks.
    Bill Cross
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    'In the end, it's the history, stupid. If you can't document it, forget about it. And no amount of tomfoolery can explain away anything that makes history (and living historians) look stupid and wrong."

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