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    Question Hobnail Patterns, Authentic?

    I see a boot and shoe maker offering Hobnail "Pattern" service. Question, would it be historically correct for footwear of the period to have designs or patterns in the hobnails on the soles of the shoes and boots, or is this just something that the boot maker is doing on its own?
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    The search function is an under valued and under utilzed resource. Here's a recent thread about hobnails : http://www.cwreenactors.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20107

    Nice photos, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silas View Post
    The search function is an under valued and under utilzed resource. Here's a recent thread about hobnails : http://www.cwreenactors.com/forum/sh...ad.php?t=20107

    Nice photos, too.
    Yes, I did come across that post when I did as I always do, run a search first. It does not answer my specific question of did they put creative 'designs' in the hobnails on the footwear of the period. I can't seem to pin down this one. If anyone knows about this specific detail, please let me know. I'll keep on looking though.
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    After seeing that thread, I don't see why anyone would want to put hobnails on their shoes. Yeah, you get traction on grass, but you substantially diminish the life of the shoes.

    I fairness, I jumped to the conclusion that you wanted to know about patterns so you could get ideas for something you wanted done or wanted to do yourself. Doesn't sound like that was the reason for your question.
    Silas Tackitt

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    "Authenticity conflicts occur when reenactors from one end of the spectrum attend events at the other end of the spectrum then try to impose their own standards instead of event standards."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silas View Post
    After seeing that thread, I don't see why anyone would want to put hobnails on their shoes. Yeah, you get traction on grass, but you substantially diminish the life of the shoes.

    I fairness, I jumped to the conclusion that you wanted to know about patterns so you could get ideas for something you wanted done or wanted to do yourself. Doesn't sound like that was the reason for your question.
    You need to read further in the discussion before concluding that hobnails destroy soles. I could go on at length about what lasts and doesn't when it comes to boots and miles, but the best response is one word: caliga.
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    Caliga? Those would be fine under the principle of "when in Rome..."
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    Thought that was Caligula?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ross L. Lamoreaux View Post
    Thought that was Caligula?
    He was named after the heavy studded shoe of the roman legion soldiers.....caliga:Caligula
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silas View Post
    Caliga? Those would be fine under the principle of "when in Rome..."
    The point is, as I mentioned in the other thread, if hobnails ruined shoes someone in the last two thousand years might have noticed. Have you removed your heel plates yet?

    But while we're on the subject, you've got to admire the design of the caliga. The uppers come pre-slashed and they readily adjust to swelling feet: http://de.academic.ru/pictures/dewik..._from_side.jpg
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    Wow, just when I think it's going to be a dull day someone pops in with caliga- Caligula. Now I can refresh my Cliff Clavin impression.
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