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    Okay, I pretty well know the drill on how to bleach shock and sanitize plastic water jugs or wooden barrels to transport potable water supply, as well as how quickly that water has to be used.

    We have several period reproduction tinned 3 gallon milk cans that we also use for water supply, and to carry water for any distance where we need to maintain a period appearance. Much easier than sloshing buckets around.

    Using bleach to sanitize these will etch the tin--bad idea on more than one level.

    Other than washing these in boiling water, what else can I use that will be effective to sanitize, without etching the tin?
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    Alcohol. Cheap whiskey/rum/vodka/gin of some sort, mixed with a bit of water, slosh it around the inside, making sure the entire inside is wet, then pour it out, rinsing the lid as you do, and let it dry upside-down. It will dry quickly, and while it won't be "sterile", it'll be mighty clean (at least as clean, or more so, than boiling). I don't know if denatured alcohol would work for potable water containers or not. I think it might, as it will be completely evaporated before you store any water in whatever vessel you clean with it. This should work on any surface except wood. It's good with plastic, glass, ceramic, and metal.

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    While admittedly I don't know you would get it but commercial ice machine sanitizer is designed to disinfect soft nickel plated ice machine parts without etching. It is diluted with water and poured over the parts of the ice machine after "cleaning" with a phosphoric acid mixture.

    If you cannot get any on your own, let me know. I will get some for you and we will have to work out getting it to you.

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    I'd try the alcohol approach.....in fact, how about a nice Milk Punch for those milk containers???
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    Quote Originally Posted by RJSamp View Post
    I'd try the alcohol approach.....in fact, how about a nice Milk Punch for those milk containers???

    Now you'd have to talk to a certain surly division sutler about that. He's the one placing food in front of ossifers for a reasonable sum.......

    .... reasonable, considering the army is on campaign, and the cost of wagons and teams, and the hostile citizenry, carrying costs for the accounts, spoilage and seepage, manservants, and........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spinster View Post
    Okay, I pretty well know the drill on how to bleach shock and sanitize plastic water jugs or wooden barrels to transport potable water supply, as well as how quickly that water has to be used.

    Mrs. Lawson,
    Just out of curiosity, how quickly should that water be used? I guess it depends on the weather, and the sort of container, but how long can you safely transport drinking water?

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    It depends .

    I'm no expert here. What I am, is cautious, especially since we travel with women in their child bearing years, young children, and folks who are immune suppressed. Water quality is vital.

    For your typical 6 gallon blue Walmart standard refillable water container, properly bleach shocked and fully rinsed, then refilled with known potable water......

    In the South, in the summer, I'm going to start getting nervous about that water in about 24 hours. Does not mean I won't drink it--it does mean I'll start looking at it closely and considering options.

    For the same reasons, I'll want to sanitize hoses run to spigots for event water supply.

    True safety is a question to be answered by military men with that expertise.

    Its really difficult to tell what causes the various grumbly stomachs at events---unfamilar water will set some folks off, simply because it is not their home water. Top that with salt bacon, blue beef, hard cracker and corn meal, and you really have a hoss race. I'll drink water personally that I won't take the responsibility of serving to others, having learned my own stomach in the Far East.

    In a hobby where water comes from steel buffalos, ag tanks, fire trucks, hose pipes, running creeks, slow rivers, sudden rainstorms and straight out of the rock---- it pays to ask questions.
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    Ms. Lawson-any brewing store should have a product known as B-Bright-it's a peroxide based cleaner/sanitizer used to sterilize homebrewing carboys and such.

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    Unless you suspect that the buckets have had contaminated water put in them, you could probably get by with a mild solution of oxi-clean. Then a real good rinsing. The metal should really be resistant to micro growth organism.
    If the buckets have had contaminated water in them, then the problem lies with what they were contaminated with and for how long. A solution of water and iodine may do the trick.
    Or you could try filling the bucket with clean water and leaving it out in strong sunshine for a few hours. UV radiation can do a lot to sterilize water and hence the buckets. I have done this trick with a clear plastic bottle and some funky water and walked away with no problems.
    good luck
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    Alcohol is probably your best and safest sanitizor. I use rubbing alcohol for smaller things (plates, hands, utensils), but it would work for larger things as well. Just be sure to rinse out the alcohol. I'd avoid other types of chemicals, as any residual would end up in your system--which would be bad.

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