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    Exclamation Musket Identification

    I came across a Classified ad for a Percussion Musket. with very little information. What I know is that its an Austrian Smoothbore i think a .58 cal. With the Markings P.J. Malherbe & Cie Aliege. If anybody can help me in properly Identifying this Musket I shall be very greatful.
    Shane T. Palmer
    11th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry Co.K
    "The Bloody 11th"
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    My french is uber poor but perhaps this may help...

    http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...herbe%20fr.htm
    Bob Martin
    Chesapeake Volunteer Guard
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    My French is as good as my German (Non Existing) haha but juding by the photos in the link you sent me it seemsto best fit the first musket (Apperence wise) I'm going to try to get a better look at the markings on this musket
    Shane T. Palmer
    11th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry Co.K
    "The Bloody 11th"
    www.11thpvi.org

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    Hallo!

    Austrian, French, and Belgian clones, etc., arms of the pre ACW era can look very similar in many ways.

    If you can put up some pictures, we can ID it for you.

    CHS
    In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

    Not a real Civil War reenactor, I only portray one on boards and fora.
    I do not portray a Civil War soldier, I merely interpret one.

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    Herr Schmidt is correct, without pictures it will be very hard, if not impossible, to identify your musket, however, if it is marked as you say (Markings - P.J. Malherbe & Cie A Liege) then it is NOT Austrian, it is Belgian. Being Belgian it could be an arm made for the Belgian military or a gun made for any of several other countries by the contractor Malherbe. We'll wait to see the pictures.
    T.P. Hern
    Co. A, 4th Virginia
    The Stonewall Brigade

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    Sorry, meant to post a link to so,e examples of work done by Pierre Joseph
    Malherbe:

    http://www.littlegun.be/arme%20belge...herbe%20gb.htm

    Maybe your musket is one of the ones illustrated in the link?
    T.P. Hern
    Co. A, 4th Virginia
    The Stonewall Brigade

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    Hallo!

    If it is just a classified ad verbal listing, there may not be a picture to share?

    Being from Johnstown, I have oft been through New Florence (uncle-in-law was born there)..




    CHS
    In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

    Not a real Civil War reenactor, I only portray one on boards and fora.
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    Well I tried to upload a picture but its to big and im not sure how to resize it. but Here is the Ad itself http://classifieds.pennswoods.net/cl...adindex=853857

    The guy is suppose to send me more pictures of the markings etc. but i havnt heard back from him yet
    Shane T. Palmer
    11th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry Co.K
    "The Bloody 11th"
    www.11thpvi.org

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    Hallo!

    Not the best image to work with, but it helps:



    Looks like a Belgian clone of the Austrian M1842. They were .70. I can't get my monitor to clean it up- to see if it was a French M1842, but doubt it.

    CHS
    Half Blind Mess
    In gleichem Schritt und Tritt, Curt Schmidt

    Not a real Civil War reenactor, I only portray one on boards and fora.
    I do not portray a Civil War soldier, I merely interpret one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Curt-Heinrich Schmidt View Post
    Hallo!

    Not the best image to work with, but it helps:



    Looks like a Belgian clone of the Austrian M1842. They were .70. I can't get my monitor to clean it up- to see if it was a French M1842, but doubt it.

    CHS
    Half Blind Mess
    Correct me if im wrong. But wasnt the Austrian Model 1842 a Tubelock Muset?
    The 1842 French Model Was Rifled and a 69. cal but were later rebored to .70 and .71 I beleive
    Shane T. Palmer
    11th Pennsylvania Volunteer Infantry Co.K
    "The Bloody 11th"
    www.11thpvi.org

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