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    Default Happy Fourth of July

    Happy 4th to everyone. My grandmother died on the 4th of July 27 years ago, so I always would go pick up my Grandfather and do something with him, If i was not off in the Army. Usually a Baseball Game. He did not like Baseball, but he went to be with me .

    He was in the 1st Infantry Division when they hit Ohaha Beach on D-Day. and he had ten rules for life and I would like to share them with you today.


    1. Take care of the poor, and I don't mean the lazy.
    2. Tell your wife you love her everyday. Don't drink much around her and don't screw around on her.
    3. Most preachers are full of shit.
    4. Everyday pass the "mirror test".
    5. Don't Bottle-Neck at a river crossing, "The Nats" will attack every time.
    6. Always do for others as others have done for you.
    7. Take care of the Old, and listen to them.
    8. Don't pray for nothing, except the ability to accept Gods Will.
    9. Never let a day go by, that you don't remember the men you served with.
    10, Money talks and bullshit walks.


    Happy 4th courtesy of the US MILITARY

    DAle Beasley

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    Thanks Dale, Happy July 4th to you too!

    It's an interesting topic to see how troops spent July 4th thoughout history (Gettysburg, Vicksburg, Belleau Wood), but July 4, 1944 was tough in both the Pacific and Atlantic. Victory still wasn't assured. It was probably the most tenous summer of our nation's history, worse than 1776 and 1863. It was a war we couldn't lose and the generation that saved the planet had no intetion of losing. I teach my sons to thank vets every day!

    Thanks to everyone in the Beasley family (and all the other vets) who've worked so hard for us!!!
    Christopher J. Daley

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    Default Thanks Chris

    Thanks Chris for the kind words. yesterday we went to the Braves Game and ate hotdogs...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dale beasley View Post
    Happy 4th to everyone.


    Happy 4th courtesy of the US MILITARY

    DAle Beasley
    The 4th of July is not courtesy of the US military. It is a celebration of independence gained by citizen soldiers taking up arms against a standing army. There is no martial aspect. There was no formal standing US Military at the time.

    Chris Rideout
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    Quote Originally Posted by FloridaConfederate View Post
    The 4th of July is not courtesy of the US military. It is a celebration of independence gained by citizen soldiers taking up arms against a standing army. There is no martial aspect. There was no formal standing US Military at the time.

    Chris Rideout
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    Your are right, but if it was not a Standing Army now, you would have the liberty you do now.

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    Belated but I would like to say the following:

    Thanks to all of the civilians throughout the history of our country who have supported our cause.

    Thanks to all of the citizen-soldiers who have fought at a moments notice to protect our freedoms.

    Thanks to all of the professional military service personnel who continue to protect us. I include the National Guard and Reserve in this because they are as an important a part of the overall force now as our regulars!
    Regards,
    Barry Smithson

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    It is a celebration of independence gained by citizen soldiers taking up arms against a standing army. There is no martial aspect. There was no formal standing US Military at the time.
    Technically speaking, much of Washington's army coming out of Valley Forge were indeed Regulars hired for multi-year tours of duties by the fledgling U.S. Congress rather than state militia troops. While the U.S. did not yet have a standing army of career professional yets, the core of his army were now longer citizen soldiers in the sense that the militia were. Likewise, it was the regular troops with help from the miltia who sucessfully defendied Baltimore during the War of 1812, effectively guaranteeing that the U.S. would remain independent of Great Britian.
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    Tom your picking nits.

    If you wish to view / turn Independence Day and the American Minuteman to represent a regular post Constitution Federalized US Troop who was fighting the Crown only to and knwoingly submit to centralized Federal master. That is your right.

    Factually the Declaration contains very little martial verbiage.

    I think the iconic image and the American psyche views Independence Day remembering the American Spirit (once societally inate) of the citizen (then by Colony) willing to rise and shake off anyone who would oppress their freedom.

    Chris Rideout
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    Gentlemen,

    A little real history might be in order. The Colonies were broken up into about three equal groups. About a third supported the Crown, a third supported independence, and a third were neutral.
    Bill Rodman, If you need a really bad example.
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    And unfortunately of the one third who did support the cause, they still did not support the need to tax to support the troops.
    Regards,
    Barry Smithson

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