Name Five Female Spies of the Civil War

[Pauline Cushman]

Citing Source:http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/trivia.htmFive women who were spies during the Civil War.

1. Bell Boyd - for the Confederacy

2. Pauline Cushman - for the Union

3. Rose O'Neal Greenhow - for the Confederacy

4. Elizabeth Van Lew - for the Union

5. Mary Bowser - for the Union

I guess that this Civil War Trivia proves that women served as Spies and soldiers during the Civil War.

[B]Name the only woman to have completed a fully documented Union Army enlistment. Jennie Hodges aka Albert D. J. Cashier, 95th Infantry ILL Vols.

I guess that this proves that a women who was enlisted in the Union army and worn the uniform of a soldier, i.e. Pauline Cashman, Jennie Hodger aka Private Albert Cashier, Sara Edmond aka Private Frank Thompson, Bell Boyd aka Luitenant Harry Buford,ect.. were more than likely walking through battle lines in uniform and in both union and confederate encampments in uniform as well.[/B]

[OVI]

I guess that this proves that a women who was enlisted in the Union army and worn the uniform of a soldier, i.e. Pauline Cashman, Jennie Hodger aka Private Albert Cashier, Sara Edmond aka Private Frank Thompson, Bell Boyd aka Luitenant Harry Buford,ect.. were more than likely walking through battle lines in uniform and in both union and confederate encampments in uniform as well.[/SIZE][/B]

I see no proof that Pauline Cushman enlisted in the Union army or ever wore a Majors uniform in any battleline or encampment.

Kent Dorr - Ohio
"Devils Own Mess"

[The Rambling Irishman]

"I guess that this proves that a women who was enlisted in the Union army and worn the uniform of a soldier, i.e. Pauline Cashman, Jennie Hodger aka Private Albert Cashier, Sara Edmond aka Private Frank Thompson, Bell Boyd aka Luitenant Harry Buford,ect.. were more than likely walking through battle lines in uniform and in both union and confederate encampments in uniform as well."

I've kept my mouth shut about this, but here goes. If you are truly wanting to portray someone correctly, then I would not base my impression on the "I guess" and "were more than likely" assumptions that you have made in this post and others. You lack the documentation to accurately portray this lady or any of the other lady spies. Historical interpretation cannot be based on what you think they might have worn. Research, and I don't mean looking at Trivia questions. Use 1st hand accounts and ORIGINAL RECORDS, not 3rd, 4th or even 5th hand ideas and personal thoughts of modern writers and "history buffs." I respect you for wanting to portray Ms. Cushman, however the documentation to accurately do this particular impression is not there. If you are just wanting an excuse to dress up like a soldier, just do it and stop trying to base it on one person.

[hanktrent]

Hint: larger fonts and brighter colors do not make facts more true.

Women dressed in uniforms. Women spied. Nobody's disagreeing with that.

I don't even see anybody disagreeing that Pauline Cushman wore a Union uniform sometimes after her spying career was over, since we have photographic evidence.

The question is: what is your documentation that Pauline Cushman wore a Union uniform while she was still working as a spy? That's what you're claiming, right?

Everything you've provided us that's specifically about her, indicates just the opposite: the US uniform came after her spying career was over.

And, more importantly, why is this so important for you to prove? As Terre and I mentioned in one of the other threads, if you want to wear a man's uniform while portraying her during her spying career, there actually is some documentation that she wore a Confederate officer's uniform while spying.

Hank Trent
hanktrent@gmail.com

[wheres_my_horse]

Citing Source:http://www.bitsofblueandgray.com/trivia.htm[B]

Five women who were spies during the Civil War.

1. Bell Boyd - for the Confederacy

2. Pauline Cushman - for the Union

3. Rose O'Neal Greenhow - for the Confederacy

4. Elizabeth Van Lew - for the Union

5. Mary Bowser - for the Union

I guess that this Civil War Trivia proves that women served as Spies and soldiers during the Civil War.

Name the only woman to have completed a fully documented Union Army enlistment. Jennie Hodges aka Albert D. J. Cashier, 95th Infantry ILL Vols.

I guess that this proves that a women who was enlisted in the Union army and worn the uniform of a soldier, i.e. Pauline Cashman, Jennie Hodger aka Private Albert Cashier, Sara Edmond aka Private Frank Thompson, Bell Boyd aka Luitenant Harry Buford,ect.. were more than likely walking through battle lines in uniform and in both union and confederate encampments in uniform as well.

Pauline,

Belle Boyd was NOT LT. Harry Buford. It does not matter how many times you repeat it, it just didn't happen.

As I stated in this post

According to Richard Hall's "Women in Battle in the Civil War", it was Loreta Janeta Velazquez who passed herself off as Lt. Harry Buford, not Belle Boyd.

You have named one female that passed as a man through the war. You have named 5 spys [3 Union, 2 Confederate] that were female.

You can't therefore say that Pauline Cushman (1 of the 5 spys) both wore male uniforms and PASSED as a male. I already disproved one...

It is akin to me saying that I like pie. And since they make pie out of rhubarb, I must like Rhubarb pie.

Pauline had a heck of a better chance walking through lines as a female civilian than she did walking from the Union Lines dressed as a Major, finding the nearest phone booth to change, then walking through the Confederate Lines as a Reb soldier.

Her only documented spy mission is the one she was caught doing as Pauline Cushman, female actress.

Every one of Belle's exploits were as a female using her womanly charms.

[28thNY]

Hint: larger fonts and brighter colors do not make facts more true.

You're right! That takes multiple threads repeating the same story without providing first hand sources.

[johnduffer]

Just out of curiosity are you related to Banjo Danny ?

John Duffre

[plankmaker]

I'd go with the Crazy Bet impression. I think it would be fun walking around talking to yourself and acting crazy (some say, I already do). Ever seen any post war pictures of Crazy Bet in her postmaster's uniform?

Mark Campbell
Piney Flats, TN

"No banjos were harmed in the making of this post."

[sbl]

Harriet Tubman?

"Ever seen any post war pictures of Crazy Bet in her postmaster's uniform?"

Mark.

Are there any?

[sbl]

Find William Growman's feet in the picture.