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    Default Blank Charge 1858 Remington

    Can anyone tell me a few ways of making blank cartridges for the 1858 Remington New Army? I've heard 12-15 gr ffg, but it seems it neds a filler and patch. ANy info is appreciated.
    Corporal Bruce Stump
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    I use 30 grain and cream of wheat and i double load the cream of wheat

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    Here is a source I use on making combustable cartridges for my Colt Army. (Just dont use the ball). I am not sure if it is reenactment usable or safe, as I am still waiting for that promotion....

    http://www.civilwarguns.com/9508.html
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    Cigarette paper makes a nice material for pistol cartridges.
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    Default Blank Revolver Cartridges

    To make a former, I took a 3/8 maple dowel rod (I use a Colt Navy) and sanded it until it fit snug in each chamber, then sanded some more to make a taper on one end. Next I wrap a hair curling paper over the tapered end and up around the former. Hair curling papers are about 2 1/2 x 4 so they are planty big enough, they are thin, burn VERY well, and very inexpensive something like $3 for 1000. After tightly wrapping the paper around the former, I slide the tube off and fill it with 20 grains of 3f. Twist the open end closed and put 6 in a cartridge packet.
    To use, I simply withdraw one from the packet, hold it by the twisted end and insert it into a chamber. Ram it home using the loading lever, making sure all of the twisted paper ends up in the chamber. Then cap and you are ready to go. I have carried my revolver loaded in this manner for quite a few miles in the saddle at various events and have yet to experienced a problem with ignition when I pulled the trigger.
    If you are loading an Army revolver, simply use a larger former and adjust the powder load accordingly to ensure that everything gets compressed firmly when loaded and rammed.
    Dave

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    I reckon ya'll would be opposed to using them Wonder Wad type things. Wouldn't ya?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozark Iron John
    I reckon ya'll would be opposed to using them Wonder Wad type things. Wouldn't ya?
    Oh, jeez, there goes the neighborhood...

    John, I've never used them, but I think the Wonder Wads might make too dangerous a projectile. Is that possible? What are they made of, anyway? I've never fired blanks from a revolver so this hasn't come up for me.
    Yours, &c.,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ozark Iron John
    I reckon ya'll would be opposed to using them Wonder Wad type things. Wouldn't ya?
    Most events don't allow them.....

    COW baby....
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    Default Remington Blanks

    Quote Originally Posted by corp_stump
    Can anyone tell me a few ways of making blank cartridges for the 1858 Remington New Army? I've heard 12-15 gr ffg, but it seems it neds a filler and patch. ANy info is appreciated.
    I usually load nitrated paper tubes with 15 grains of powder then top off with Cream O' Wheat from a flask. The Cream O' wheat is what is required at most events I attend and it works well. Some fellows like to use more powder but I found it doesn't add anything. You actually will get a louder pop from the smaller powder charge since the additional cream of wheat you can load adds more compression.
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    Bruce,
    Please contact me off forum at MajSmokeyCS@wmconnect.com I will send you a file on what you will need to roll, fill, store, and load blank cartridges safely.

    Regards,

    Brian
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