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    Default American Civil War Warship models

    This post might be better suited to posting at steelnavy.com. But there is a chance that some reenactors may be good ship modelers.

    First, I'm looking for scale drawing of an improved Monitor, the Passaic class. At 1/48th scale that ship would scale out to about 4' 1"(give or take). At 1/96 scale (typical ship scale) the Passaic scales out to 2', not a big model. Where can you get plans?

    Second, I'm asking just a general question of reenactors. If there is a large reenactment and some craftsman builds a superior model of a Civil War ship and puts it on display at some tent over by the vendor section then do the reenactors like that sort of thing?

    I've seen some craftsmen build superior quality models of Civil War ships. It's a pleasure to look at them.

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    Second, I'm asking just a general question of reenactors. If there is a large reenactment and some craftsman builds a superior model of a Civil War ship and puts it on display at some tent over by the vendor section then do the reenactors like that sort of thing?
    I know that I would enjoy looking at it and studying its design features. I would not be surprised if many reeanctors here where unaware of the fact the battle between the CCS Virginia and the USS Monitor was not ended as the result of any ship getting the upper hand but rather because the falling tide. We all have a feel for how tall the ironclads were but I know that I do not have as good of a handle on the actual draft of them.
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    Default Ship models

    I think that a lot of reenactors would enjoy taking a good look at a well-built, accurately detailed model(s) of Civil War naval vessels. I know I would. But, on the other hand, I have seen some models on display that were poorly built, wholly inaccurate and a complete waste of time.
    I have built a model ship or two (from plastic to wooden plank on frame) and the real fun is in creating the details and getting it right.

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    Tom, I am .

    Being from the Hampton Roads area, I studying up some on the ACW history of the area. Main focuses were actions in and around Elizabeth City County (now the modern city of Hampton), Warwick County (modern day city of Newport News), Portsmouth, Norfolk, Isle of White County, etc. etc.

    Well, as for the some of the general design stats, try here:
    http://www.civilwarhome.com/monitorstats.htm
    http://www.civilwarhome.com/virginiastats.htm
    General info on the battle (and Ironclads):
    http://www.civilwarhome.com/ironclad.htm
    http://ironclads.org/uss_ironclads.html
    http://americancivilwar.com/tcwn/civ...ia_Battle.html
    These are just a few to get you started .
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    You may have seen this already....

    NavSource Online: Battleship Photo Archive
    USS PASSIAC

    http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/passiac.htm

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    Default Monitor chickened out, Virginia didnt follow up

    Quote Originally Posted by tompritchett
    I know that I would enjoy looking at it and studying its design features. I would not be surprised if many reeanctors here where unaware of the fact the battle between the CCS Virginia and the USS Monitor was not ended as the result of any ship getting the upper hand but rather because the falling tide. We all have a feel for how tall the ironclads were but I know that I do not have as good of a handle on the actual draft of them.

    No sir, the virginia got in a good shot and the monitor declined further engagement. the next time the virginia came out, prepared to board the monitor, it hid itself a distance away. the tide played a factor in how close the virginia could get to the skuclking union vessels. they all fled when it came out, with the exception of the brave crews the first day who didnt know its firepower and protection. The difference is the Virginia tried to get in as close as possible. the monitor which could go in shallow waters, never came and attacked sewells point or the Virginias base.
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    Blockading the river and avoiding destruction still wins.
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    First point, I can say without a doubt I would love to see an acurate model of any civil war vessel, or any historic ship for that matter, I am just that into history.

    Second, my understanding of the battle between the Monitor and the Virginia is that neither vessel was able to score a critical hit, finnally after a good bit of shelling on both sides, the Virginia was able to score a hit close to one of the gun ports on the Monitor, blinding the captain. With the captain down, the Monitor backed off at which point the Virginia naturally assumed it had carried the day and the lowering tide persuaded them to withdrawl untill they could come back the next day and finish the job.
    The Monitor seeing the Virginia withdrawing thought they had carried the day and decided to leave as well. Since both vessels left at about the same time the battle has to be considered a draw, both returning to a hero's welcome as both thought they had won the day. It would ultimatley turn into a Union victory as the Virginia was never able to break the blockade thus failing to achieve its goal and the Monitor was able to assist in defending the blockading fleet thus achieving its goal.

    But I could always be wrong

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    If you would like to see some really great models consider coming to Columbus Ohio Aug 8th weekemd for the IPMS ( International Plastic Modelers Society) Nationals. You WILL be amazed. I used to be a member and thought I was pretty good until I saw what some of these guys do. You should be able to google IPMS USA to find info.
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    Default monitor withdrew a second time, pilot house hit

    Quote Originally Posted by VA Soldier
    First point, is that neither vessel was able to score a critical hit, finnally after a good bit of shelling on both sides, the Virginia was able to score a hit close to one of the gun ports on the Monitor, blinding the captain. But I could always be wrong

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    the Virginia hit the pilot house, and the monitor withdrew for the second time. thus the virginia went home, nothing to do until high tide. you can count that as its only withdrawal to the monitors two. it would have stayed if the monitor hadnt left. i call that a standing 8-9 or 10 count. and in subsequent encounters the union withdrew to shallow waters. at that time the way to deep water is open but still guarded from the shore lines, technically the blockade was open several times, as in the ironclads opening it in charleston, but what does that really mean if the north wont honor those rules, more like guidlines any way.
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