Script I's

[Scooby_308]

Who (in your opinion) sells the best (meaning close to original) Script I buttons?

[Tennessee Boy]

That's easy

Ben Tart

Ian Smith
55th Virginia

[Jim Mayo]

Who (in your opinion) sells the best (meaning close to original) Script I buttons?

I have a comparison of one of Tart's script I buttons and an original on this page. The makers vary and some are better than others but all I have seen him sell are close to looking like an original.

http://www.angelfire.com/ma4/j_mayo/csequip.html

[Scooby_308]

Thanks Gents!

Mr. Mayo I should have remembered your page. I view it from time to time, and when you posted it for me it was a "duh, I knew that" moment.


Thanks again.

[Scooby_308]

It says his site is under construction and gives no e-mail. Does anyone have one for Mr. tart?

[Ross L. Lamoreaux]

It says his site is under construction and gives no e-mail. Does anyone have one for Mr. tart?

About the only wayto reach Ben is to call on the phone (252)883-5374. He is notoriusly slow in all dealings, but worse through the computer. Its all worth it though.

[Bummer]

No NO NO!!! There IS no reproduction of the script I button! Darn it I hate it when terms are misused (like 'A frame' which is a Swiss chalet--as opposed to 'A tent' which is another term for the military common tent). The button Ben Tart has is the 'Old English' I button. A script I is much more ornate--almost unreadibly ornate, and a totally different button design--and very noticably so. Jim Mayo, you ought to know this, I bet you've dug a bunch of each. When someone ever gets around to making a reproduction script I (or A or C etc.) how we going to term them if 'script' is already (mis)used for the 'old English'?
Come on, we're supposed to be the experts in all this material culture stuff--the least we can do is use good terminology.
Arrrgh~!

[Jim Mayo]

No NO NO!!! There IS no reproduction of the script I button! Dammit I hate it when terms are misused (like 'A frame' which is a Swiss chalet--as opposed to 'A tent' which is another term for the military common tent). The button Ben Tart has is the 'Old English' I button. A script I is much more ornate--almost unreadibly ornate, and a totally different button design--and very noticably so. Jim Mayo, you ought to know this, I bet you've dug a bunch of each. When someone ever gets around to making a reproduction script I (or A or C etc.) how we going to term them if 'script' is already (mis)used for the 'old English'?
Come on, we're supposed to be the experts in all this material culture stuff--the least we can do is use good terminology.
Arrrgh~!

Don't blame me, I didn't start it. Most relic hunters call the lined old english I buttons "Script" and the Manuscript letters "Manuscript".

Maybe we could break new ground here and start calling them Old English I buttons but that just doesn't sound right.

[Bummer]

Jim,
I know you didn't. It's something that's pretty far and wide like "A frames" and other things I dare not mention. But I just wonder what happens when we want to talk about actual (manu)script buttons.
Like the man says; "Words mean things", and we need to remember that we in the 'old time' business mustn't forget what these old things were called--or at least agree on what they are to be called today. That letter I (or C or A or E) is not an 1860's script letter in that it would take a special pen (obsolete flat nib) to actually write one. By the time those buttons were produced (1860's) about the only place you'd see those kinds of letters would be old legal documents--nobody would be writing like that. Yet 1860's high style penmanship produced letters like the manuscript buttons.
If someone were to ask me (and others) about the best repro 'script' CSA button I would think of those squiggly ones and say there isn't any and that miscommunication would be the wrong answer through no fault of mine.
Yes, I know that a lot of folks use 'script' and 'manuscript'; however Old English isn't the same as script. I bow to common usage, but.....

Bah, humbug.
Spence~

PS--Just after typing this I asked Ben Tart (who happened to walk in) what those buttons he had were called and he said, "You mean the Old English ones?" HA!! (but we both agreed that the general presently used term seems to be 'script').

[FloridaConfederate]

Spence great info !!! But dont waste your keystrokes. Know your audience.

A simple gold button will suffice here.

There is a thread on the A/C about EBGK in the Western CS that I mentioned "Script I" and their origins. If you have any pics showing the difference in the two, I would VERY much appreciate learning more.