KKK Does it again, Where next?

[3rdUSRedleg]

Just saw on the news, KKK was granted a permit to protest Sept. 2nd In Gettysburg, on the grounds of the cyclorama.......

This is just plain disgusting.. but not surprising

[VaTrooper]

Mabey we can vote to push back the reenactment again and have it that weekend. I wonder if'll they'll still have the sand with all the boys in blue around.

[Pvt_Idaho]

I am glad I wasn't drinking anything when I read William Shifflett's post. That would have hurt. Brilliant idea!

Audrey Scanlan

[flattop32355]

Let 'em do it. Just everybody ignore them. Stay away that day, or if you're there, be at some other location. Nothing they do can sully that ground. All they can do is make fools of themselves.

[Kimmel]

Question..... Why do they keep choosing Union victories?! Whoever their coordinator is needs a history book.

[cblodg]

maybe the spirits of those honored dead will come back and show those "ghosts of our confederate brothers" a thing or two.

It *is* an interesting touch that they keep going to Union victory sites though, I must agree.

Chris

[captdougofky]

Calm down boys they are doing what they want, getting you all upset. Being from Kentucky I have lived around them all my life. Look them in the eye and state your ground. I am a reenactor CS Artillery and I don't get upset why should you.

Always Doug
Lyons Battery
Kentucky

[tompritchett]

I suspect they are picking sites where Union victories resulted in the pushing of Northern ideas down the throats of the Southerners (using their thinking here folks not mine). Remember it was the Southern resistance towards civil rights movement of the 60s and the Federal and, in their eyes Northern, support of the movement and enforcement of the resulting court decisions and legislation that really brought the KKK back to the forefront since it peak in the 20's. (Interestingly enough, the 60's also allowed the Republican to become dominant in American politics as the "Dixiecrats" defected starting with Nixon's first election.)

While I deplore the racist and hate-filled message of the KKK, unfortanately, I also have to support their right to hold their rallies provided they have met all the applicable local regulations about public displays. It is the Constitution and all its amendments that makes this country great and that is what we must always remember needs defending - not any particular adminstration, governing political party or given political correctness. Twice, I have sworn oaths of service to this country and in both cases the oath was to defend the Constitution and then the nation which uses the Constitution as its foundation. If you allow the foundation to be destroyed, then that which is built upon can never be as stable and may ultimately crumble.

Having said that, I would have no problem exercising my right of free speech by showing up in my full Confederate gear with a sign saying something to the effect that "to true Southerners, the KKK are nothing but poor white trash".

[Popeye]

1- Though they are without a doubt, all white, I'd beg to differ that they are are all poor white trash....in fact, history would show that they have from time to time, had a strong financial background. Not so much these days but, from time to time.
2- Please do not equate the KKK to just Southern folk. Again, history will prove that there has been a strong presence in the North as well. Racism is NOT a Southern thing. I live in the North and there is as much here as there is anywhere else, and not just towards blacks.
3- The KKK has, unfortunately, as much right to stand about and promote their thinking as any other group, one's we agree with and one's we don't. Never let their small minded thinking infect your willingness to defend their right to express their idology. If you bar them, you bar queers, pro-abortionist, anti-warist, flag burners,the NRA, the American Legion Auxillary, civil war battlefield preservasion....you see, those you agree with and those you don't.
4- The KKK is not about Southern Rights or Independance, never have been. They [B]were[B] about protecting their homes and families and just ex-Confederate soldiers getting together for the sake of brotherhood. As Tom pointed out, it was the Civil Rights movement that brought them back out and then, it was about protecting the white culture in America, and that's all. My grandfather was a born and breed Northerner and he told me of rest rooms in the North when he was a kid, in the early 1900's, that were white only or had marked white and blacks. So, it is not just a Southern thing. What hurt the history and heritage of the War for Southern Independence was that the KKK used the Confederate battle flag, as a partner to the US flag, in their cause and protest. No one wants to ban the US flag because of it.

This is a deep subject but the bottom line is 2 pronged, it is not a cause to blame the Southern folk or thier history and it is a chance to show what we stand for, the Constitution of the United States of America and to protect the history of those that fought and sometimes died, to protect and preserve.

Just let them do their thing and you do what you do......educate the same people passing the KKK folks, to the truths of the matters.

Keith "Popeye" Rayeski
NRA Life Member

[tompritchett]

1- Though they are without a doubt, all white, I'd beg to differ that they are are all poor white trash....in fact, history would show that they have from time to time, had a strong financial background. Not so much these days but, from time to time.

When my mother used the term "poor white trash" she was not necessarily referring to their current financial status but what their moral character, or more importantly lack thereof, said about their background - even if that background had to be traced back for several generations.

2- Please do not equate the KKK to just Southern folk. Again, history will prove that there has been a strong presence in the North as well. Racism is NOT a Southern thing. I live in the North and there is as much here as there is anywhere else, and not just towards blacks.

Total agreement. Racism historically has always been an American issue and not just a Southern issue. It is just historically we Southerners just seemed to be more open about it. However, probably the worse single instance of racial violence against blacks last century occurred in Kansas and not in the South. And who can forget the riots in Boston when courts required that the Boston school districts institute mandatory bussing of students to desegrate their schools. Would have made Lester Maddox and the early George Wallace proud. I will never forget when I moved to the Bronx and one of my neighbors saw the Confederate flag on my front license plate. The first words out of his mouth were not "hello, how are you" but instead, "you're from the South, you must hate n*****s too." (This is when the dual meaning of the flag was truly driven home for me because until then, I saw the flag only to mean pride in my Southern heritage.)

3- The KKK has, unfortunately, as much right to stand about and promote their thinking as any other group, one's we agree with and one's we don't. Never let their small minded thinking infect your willingness to defend their right to express their idology. If you bar them, you bar queers, pro-abortionist, anti-warist, flag burners,the NRA, the American Legion Auxillary, civil war battlefield preservasion....you see, those you agree with and those you don't.

Could not agree more. That is why so much of my post was about the importance of protecting the Constitution against even ourselves. Personally, I think that the terrorist are definitely wining because of the sacrifices that we are allowing to made to Constitutionally protected, personal liberties in the interests of the government "protecting" us. The terrorist have pushed us in doing more damage to the American ideal by undermining the Constitution than they could ever to physically.

4- The KKK is not about Southern Rights or Independance, never have been. They [B]were[B] about protecting their homes and families and just ex-Confederate soldiers getting together for the sake of brotherhood. As Tom pointed out, it was the Civil Rights movement that brought them back out and then, it was about protecting the white culture in America, and that's all. My grandfather was a born and breed Northerner and he told me of rest rooms in the North when he was a kid, in the early 1900's, that were white only or had marked white and blacks. So, it is not just a Southern thing. What hurt the history and heritage of the War for Southern Independence was that the KKK used the Confederate battle flag, as a partner to the US flag, in their cause and protest. No one wants to ban the US flag because of it.

This is a deep subject but the bottom line is 2 pronged, it is not a cause to blame the Southern folk or thier history and it is a chance to show what we stand for, the Constitution of the United States of America and to protect the history of those that fought and sometimes died, to protect and preserve.

Just let them do their thing and you do what you do......educate the same people passing the KKK folks, to the truths of the matters.

Amen. That would be the reason why any counter protest/education that I would make would be in a Confederate uniform.