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    If memory serves all the Arms At Will commands...

    If memory serves all the Arms At Will commands say muzzle up. Your sergeants are remiss.
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    This is from CASEYS talking about Route Step. ...

    This is from CASEYS talking about Route Step. HARDEES doesn't mention the sling and this is one of the very few places where Casey differs in the schools of the soldier and company. It's...
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    A bit tricky with only two pieces visable but my...

    A bit tricky with only two pieces visable but my money'd be on a mirror image Scott, Casey, et al stack. The piece on the (our) right parallel to the wall is the center.

    I have these drawn in...
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    I think my earlier explanation went unnoticed...

    I think my earlier explanation went unnoticed when the thread was closed:



    With HARDEE the piece out in front (rear No. 2) has butt parallel with color line and the other three perpendicular to...
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    I have to disagree with a few of your points Mr....

    I have to disagree with a few of your points Mr. Griego. I'm at work bookless and will wait till I research to touch on some but I will say it's reasonably easy to tell the Ellsworth-Hardee-Swing...
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    I messed up - note the edit - in both cases the...

    I messed up - note the edit - in both cases the parallel butt is rear No. 2.
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    With HARDEE the piece out in front (rear No. 2)...

    With HARDEE the piece out in front (rear No. 2) has butt parallel with color line and the other three perpendicular to the line.

    With SCOTT/GILHAM/CASEY the right most piece (also rear No.2) is...
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    And note the stacks are ELLSWORTH/HARDEE aka the...

    And note the stacks are ELLSWORTH/HARDEE aka the swing done by federal troops.
  9. ? HARDEE spells it out pretty clearly, it...

    ? HARDEE spells it out pretty clearly, it sometimes just mentions what the file closers do of which the 2nd LT is one.
  10. " I'll settle for any source from 1855 Hardee...

    " I'll settle for any source from 1855 Hardee through 1867 Upton which explicitly instructs firing through the right interval for left oblique. "

    Hardee, Gilham, Casey, et al don't explicitly...
  11. I'm not sure in what context the term was...

    I'm not sure in what context the term was mentioned in Gilhams but early war there was sort of a fad for multi purpose items like knapsacks that would unfold to become a tent or the Day's Patent...
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    The line between heavy and light was beginning to...

    The line between heavy and light was beginning to blur by the Civil War with most everyone, more or less, acting as both as the need might be though it seems there was some confusion about it early...
  13. A couple of obscure books but from the right time...

    A couple of obscure books but from the right time period and perhaps indicative of current thought as this would have been a good time to mention switching to the left interval if that were the norm....
  14. " Since that same phrase is used in the all...

    " Since that same phrase is used in the all manuals which state to fire through the left interval, the implication that all aimings are on the right side does not appear correct. "

    I agree that...
  15. "the bugle calls for example are a note for note"...

    "the bugle calls for example are a note for note"

    I always wondered about that. I know nothing about music and didn't know if was a universal language or if a song was different in English,...
  16. "per Scott's 1821 manual and its updates,...

    "per Scott's 1821 manual and its updates, revisions, and imitators"

    As I mentioned earlier the 1835 SCOTT is a complete rewrite and not an update or revision. There's no continuity with the...
  17. 22 centimeters is 8.66 inches or "about eight...

    22 centimeters is 8.66 inches or "about eight inches". Useless French trivia - peloton is an ad hoc for company like battalion is for regiment.
  18. For those who don't read French the wording is...

    For those who don't read French the wording is the same as HARDEE (well other than being in French) except for centimeters instead of inches and having the Instructor post a man out front to act as a...
  19. I don’t know of any English translation (besides...

    I don’t know of any English translation (besides HARDEE :) ). I have originals of the 1831 and 1845 and took six semesters of French at Nashville State so I could read them. Sadly I still can’t...
  20. I’m not sure this is all that cut & dried. The...

    I’m not sure this is all that cut & dried. The early manuals clearly state left interval but there’s a bit of apple & orange – the 1835 SCOTT isn’t an updated 1825 – it’s the first of a switch in...
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    "where do the colors go on the skirmish line" ...

    "where do the colors go on the skirmish line"

    In the center - right?:rolleyes:
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    A reference to the "Carry" salute

    I’m reading GETTYSBURG THE FIRST DAY by Pfanz and a passage seems to add weight to Chamberlain’s “carry” salute at Appomattox. A company of the Iron Brigade marching north approaches a pretty girl...
  23. I haven't seen enough samples to make a...

    I haven't seen enough samples to make a definitive statement but the few photos I've checked have Federal troops stacking with the Ellsworth/Hardee/"swing" rather than the Scott/Gilham/Casey method...
  24. Acceptance goes both ways. For some the effort...

    Acceptance goes both ways. For some the effort at getting the details as close as possible is a big part of the fun and there are many events where roll calls make sure nobody is missing and in need...
  25. It's pretty much spelled out. This is HARDEE'S...

    It's pretty much spelled out. This is HARDEE'S 55 but I don't recall any difference in the others

    In each rank-Count Twos.

    5. At this command, the men count in each rank, from right to left,...
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