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06-05-2006, 03:11 PM
we're restoreing a cannon and Im looking for plans for the wheels aslo looking for clothing patterns anyone come across these anywhere?
I'd rather build them than pay $300 for em
06-05-2006, 06:25 PM
Dixie Gun Works has plans for different cannon carriages with the wheel plans included. I don't know what kind of cannon you are rebuilding but 300 dollars is not a lot of money for cannon wheels. You don't even want to know what I paid for a set of No.2 wheels for my 24 pd. gun. They will not show you how to rebuild them but they will give you the dimension. Hope this helps.
06-05-2006, 08:33 PM
Wheels involve a lot of fiddly work... it might be more cost-effective to buy them from a wheelwright (specialist with lots of training), really.
Here's a site with plans for a wheeled handcart, might give some helps on the construction of wheels and axles:
06-06-2006, 09:30 AM
I am posting this response from our artillery Captain:
Making a set of wheels is both time consuming and not a task for the inexperienced. It cost me a lot more than that to build my own for the battery gun and I have paid more than $300.00 a wheel to have the last 8 wheels made for me...and I considered it cheap compaired to what it cost me to do it myself, not counting my labor. The prints for Artillery for the Land Service of the United States 1849 - 1865 (Confederate are the same) Antique Ordance Publishers, Port Huron, MI (313) 982 - 1052, they can send you the prints and specifications on whatever gun you have they include nave boxes, wheels and axels. We are building 4 more carriages, please let me know where I can get the wheels for just $300.00 each. Thank you
06-06-2006, 03:13 PM
thanks for the info guys
heres the site i found some on http://www.wagons-wheels.com/stagspokwood.html
need to some more research on em
bob 125th nysvi
06-06-2006, 10:17 PM
that artillery wheels have to take a LOT more stress than regular wagon wheels. Your basic CW wagon wasn't going to carry more than a ton of material at the outside, usually less. So a wagon wheel pattern while basically accurate may not be strong enough to actually do the job.
You're other option is once you have the dimensons and specifications is to contract the work out to the Amish. Their rates are usually pretty reasonable.
Co C 125th NYSVI
06-07-2006, 09:07 AM
Bobs right cannon wheels are made heavy as compared to wagon wheels, I had witmer wheels make my no.2's They are located in New Holland Pa. Hope this helps
bob 125th nysvi
06-08-2006, 09:09 PM
You might want to check out of the library and read "Practical Carriage Building" compiled by MT Richardson. Originally copyrighted in two volumes in 1891 & 1892 it has been reissued as one book by The Astragal Press.
Not approrpiate for cannon but it will give an idea of what is involved by people who did it for a living as a "real" job.
Co C 125th NYSVI
06-15-2006, 10:20 AM
I am new to the forum so I would like to introduce myself. I am Pete Robertson & I live & work at Summit Station Farm near Fredericksburg, VA. My house is circa 1840 a served as a hospital & a supply depot during the Civil War. The house is just a few yards from the rail road tracks & my shop is located here at the farm. Summit Crossing is just north of Guinea Station (about 3 miles) .Guinea Station is where the Stonewall Jackson shrine is located.
I am a wheelwright & I make full scale Civil War period wheels. Please visit my website www.peteblacksmith.com. I also do wheelwright living history as time permits.
I will be happy to answer wheel questions to the best of my ability.
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