how much for a spencer

[7thNJcoA]

A friend and I are going to buy a Spencer and are wondering how much we should spend for a new one I have seen 1,200 to 1,700???

[Frenchie]

Drew, do you want a carbine or a rifle? Carbines are more plentiful, but the rifle might be correct depending on your impression/unit. This is something you can find used, but caveat emptor, make sure you have time to look it over to see if it's just someone else's headache, and can send it back if the action has problems. This is more likely with an older repro, especially the ones chambered for the .44 Russian cartridge.

Online auction sites:
Auction Arms http://www.auctionarms.com/
GunBroker http://www.forthehunt.com/ (best of the three)
Guns America http://www.gunsamerica.com/

New Spencers:
Taylor's http://www.taylorsfirearms.com/products/cfSpencer.tpl
Romano Rifle http://www.romanorifle.com/html/spencer.html (at this price, it ought to shoot MOA at 1000 yards, clean itself, reload its own ammo, and make coffee :D )

Places to get advice on Spencers:
North-South Skirmish Assoc. http://www.n-ssa.org/
Cas City Forum Hall & CAS-L | Special Interests - Groups & Societies | Spencer Shooting Society http://www.cascity.com/forumhall/index.php?board=35.0

[7thNJcoA]

im looking for a carbine but this will not be a reenacting weapon just for live fire

[RJSamp]

Online auction sites:

GunBroker http://www.forthehunt.com/ (best of the three)
(at this price, it ought to shoot MOA at 1000 yards, clean itself, reload its own ammo, and make coffee :D )

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$3,500 for an original Spencer RIFLE....no takers yet.

[major]

My Armisport Spencer in 44-40 works great. I use it for blanks using cut down 410 shotgun hulls. But I have also shot it live and it had a pretty good group for shooting it right out of the box.
Terry

[Curt-Heinrich Schmidt]

Hallo!

"A friend and I are going to buy a Spencer and are wondering how much we should spend for a new one I have seen 1,200 to 1,700??"

Just as an aside... there is also the Larry Romano M1860 Spencer carbine at roughly $4,600.00 or the rifle at $5,000.00

(For the lads who may want/need a Civil War "Spencer.") ;-) :-)

Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
Just a-funnin' Just a-funnin' Mess

[harley_davis]

Gents,
I placed my old firearms on a Live Auction set for Monday Sept. 3, here is a link. Lot #568 is my original Spencer carbine. The bore is nearly mint, action very solid. I am hoping to get around $2500 out of it. For live firing, you would need to either make the rounds but I suspect there may be some that are loading centerfire cartridges. S&S Firearms offers a conversion block which I had in this one for a time for blanks, they work. There are alot of other original firearms on this auction that are mine as well as some real nice Civil War collectables.

http://www.lutherauctions.com/americana/americanacatalog.htm

Click on Thumbnail Catalog and it will load up around 650 items on this auction.

I remain, respectfully,

[bob 125th nysvi]

My Armisport Spencer in 44-40 works great. I use it for blanks using cut down 410 shotgun hulls. But I have also shot it live and it had a pretty good group for shooting it right out of the box.
Terry

when Terry is shooting that sucker off. Pretty impressive.

But the real answer to your question is ....

We having a saying in the horse business, a horse is only worth what a buyer is willing to pay not what you ask.

Same with guns as RJ can attest too with his $3,500 Spencer still hanging on the wall. No one else thinks it worth $3,500.

Maybe the better question is what is the max you guys are willing to pony up and start there.

[7thNJcoA]

well we dont want an origional I have one already and would never take it out of the display case! We want a repro that is in good condition if it needs a little work I can manage I have a little experience with period arms and am very good with firearms.

[fifthnycav]

using cut down 410 shotgun hulls.



Doesn't even resemble period ammunition.....check with your unit first, I have heard some complaints about spent shotgun shells all over the ground at events.. as well as all the kids that pick them up, showing them to dad, and asking "I didnt know that there were .410ga shotguns in the Civil War!?

At least henry .44s are the same caliber as the originals.. and look like them, too

[VaTrooper]

I have heard some complaints about spent shotgun shells all over the ground at events.. as well as all the kids that pick them up, showing them to dad, and asking "I didnt know that there were .410ga shotguns in the Civil War!?

That sounds like a bunch of crap. And how many people use rounds that look like they're sposed to anyway? 5%? Or is it 4% now?

[Curt-Heinrich Schmidt]

Hallo!

"At least henry .44s are the same caliber as the originals.. and look like them, too"

Those brass .44 WCF or .45 Colt Center Fire cartridges, or the copper .44 Henry Rimfire cartridges? ;-) :-)

Or the "Spencer" brass .44 S & W Russian or .45 Schofield cartridges or the copper .56-56 cartridges? ;-) ;-)

Or those brown plastic "Spencer" blanks?

Those little kids of today are sure smarter than I was at that age- and they say the American public school system is dying...

Sorry, just a poor attempt at humor after a funeral.

Curt-Heinrich Schmidt
Just a-funnin' Mess

[bob 125th nysvi]

That sounds like a bunch of crap. And how many people use rounds that look like they're sposed to anyway? 5%? Or is it 4% now?

of the spectators do you think would actually recognize a .410 shotgun shell for what it is.

I think it is up to 6% as even I'm trying to use real looking ammo.

[Graves Mercantile]

Doesn't even resemble period ammunition.....check with your unit first, I have heard some complaints about spent shotgun shells all over the ground at events.. as well as all the kids that pick them up, showing them to dad, and asking "I didnt know that there were .410ga shotguns in the Civil War!?

At least henry .44s are the same caliber as the originals.. and look like them, too

What happened to putting a name or signature on driveby assassinations?

[VaTrooper]

What happened to putting a name or signature on driveby assassinations?

Well as one who follows the forums I'd say this is the Mike fella that used to be with the 9th NY but is now part of the new 5th NY (That recently split off of the 9th). Which would explain why he was seems to be an arse to Terry (Who's in the 9th). [deletion - negative comments about another poster; THP]

http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12582

[fifthnycav]

of the spectators do you think would actually recognize a .410 shotgun shell for what it is.

I think it is up to 6% as even I'm trying to use real looking ammo.

The Shotgun shell says .410 on it in big letters, and there made of bright red plastic.......

I am not trying to be an "Arse" to anyone. [deletion - extremely serious charge of conflict of interest which may or not have any validity; THP] I agree that the weapons were more historically accurate, and the Henry is over-represented in the hobby

Here is my name....

M. Grzeskowiak

[major]

Mike
You didn’t seam to have any problem with shooting 410 shells out of a Spencer at the Tinker Homestead reenactment. When I loaned you my gun to finish out the battle after you ran out of ammo for yours. You fired 2 or 3 tubes as I remember it.
BTW the only place it says 410 is on the head stamp and in very small letters.

[12thriv]

I've actually never seen anyone use a Henry at an event, or a spencer?

[RJSamp]

We had a nest of Henry's at the Chick-a-Dusty...and Casement's 'Brigade' at Corinth.......what a racket!!!

One of our cavalry troopers uses his original Spencer Carbine often.......1863+ scenario's . Uses a Smithy for 1862 (and a tomahawk for 1861, no, just teasing).

[Graves Mercantile]

I saw a group of disfunctional cavalry use henry's at an event in missouri two years ago. It sounded like machine gun fire because there were 15 of them firing in rapid succession.

[fifthnycav]

I saw a group of disfunctional cavalry use henry's at an event in missouri two years ago. It sounded like machine gun fire because there were 15 of them firing in rapid succession.



yeah.... ain't it great....:p

[RJSamp]

I saw a group of disfunctional cavalry use henry's at an event in missouri two years ago. It sounded like machine gun fire because there were 15 of them firing in rapid succession.

What is "disfunctional cavalry"? Is that like 'disfunctional' campaigner's that can't march 15-25 miles per day and don't have events that reflect an 'on campaign' impression?

[major]

RJ
I have been looking at your posts for some time now an was wondering what does the signature mean?
"Horniste! Blas das Signal zum Angriffe!"
I suspect it is something about blowing the bugle as a command call but I am not sure. Would you be so kind as to translate?
Terry

[Graves Mercantile]

What is "disfunctional cavalry"? Is that like 'disfunctional' campaigner's that can't march 15-25 miles per day and don't have events that reflect an 'on campaign' impression?

Basically. Disfunctional (dismounted) cavalry is something that my old sergeant used to say in reference to reenactors that portray cavalry but without any horses. You know, the bunch of guys that really want to play cowboys and indians, but no one reenacts that. Why else would someone need a battery of henry rifles firing at 30 rounds per minute?

[tompritchett]

Why else would someone need a battery of henry rifles firing at 30 rounds per minute?

Because they are portraying cavalry when they were actually fighting dismounted? Last I heard Winder's Brigade was not mounted when they used their repeaters to stop Longstreet's assault at Snodgrass Hill. There was at least one reb who wrote that it sounded like that a whole division was in front of them.

[fifthnycav]

Terry,

It means :

Horniste! Blow the signal to attacks!

It's German
:D

[fifthnycav]

Basically. Disfunctional (dismounted) cavalry is something that my old sergeant used to say in reference to reenactors that portray cavalry but without any horses. You know, the bunch of guys that really want to play cowboys and indians, but no one reenacts that. Why else would someone need a battery of henry rifles firing at 30 rounds per minute?

Not True, Some people just can not afford a horse.:shock:

[tompritchett]

Not True, Some people just can not afford a horse.
One only has to read the posts in the "buying a reenacting horse" to see the time and money involved in acquiring, training and maintaining a good cavalry horse.

[Graves Mercantile]

Not True, Some people just can not afford a horse.:shock:

That's why there is infantry.........

Like they say if you can't do it right then don't do it at all.

This group of henry machine gunners were in the middle of town at a country fair atmosphere, not a historic representation of a real battle. And I'm sure in the real battle they didn't fire as fast as they could pull the trigger. They probably aimed at the enemy or something..........