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sbl
03-16-2007, 06:18 PM
Posted on Fri, Mar. 16, 2007

Senate panel pushes Confederate heritage month
Effort criticized by supporters of slavery apology, which is receiving cool reception
By Doug Gross
ASSOCIATED PRESS

ATLANTA - A panel of Georgia lawmakers Thursday signed off on a plan to create a Confederate heritage month....."

http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/16913251.htm

"....He said he also hopes the month will encourage history buffs to visit the state.

With the 150th anniversary of the war's start approaching in 2011, Gov. Sonny Perdue wants to spend $5 million in this year's state budget to refurbish significant sites and begin linking and promoting them as a comprehensive "heritage tourism" package...."

GaWildcat
03-16-2007, 07:29 PM
I can see that there will be some disension, and understand that, but on the other hand, I support it whole heartedly, as it is, in my mind ( and THAT can be a really scary place to hang out!!) its kinda fair.... after all we have Black History Month, Hispanic Heritage, and Asian-Pacific Islander Month, so why not have one for Confederate History?? Especially in the South, and have some time set aside for respecting the past that we all share???

Ok, thats my 2/100ths of a dollar, so flame on boys!

sbl
03-17-2007, 05:59 AM
Robert,

I looked this story up after hearing about it on the radio. Since I'm from Mass. it doesn't affect me personally , but I've been to Georgia and visited a number of the CW/WBTS sites. A CHM, linked to history and tourism is good for everybody.

Virginia is spending a lot of effort for this year. I saw some of it last summer while on vacation. If Georgians can sell this idea as a good for all Georgians, why not.

Salem, Mass. pushes the whole Witch Trial thing every Halloween (and most off the real action was in the next town). Salem also promotes the education of the actual tragedy so it's a two-fer.

Some might be concerned that minorities get their month but us white guys get the rest of the year including the warmer months when you can actually parade. ;)

GaWildcat
03-17-2007, 06:44 AM
ROFL.... well thats another way of looking at it!!!! Glad to see we agreed on something down here in the dungeons of the Celler!! That part about warmer parade weather was a real good one!:cool:

tompritchett
03-17-2007, 05:33 PM
Brooks, who said black lawmakers plan to officially introduce their slavery legislation next week, said he hopes Mullis' bill at least will encourage discussion.

Mullis, who said his Civil War-era ancestors never owned slaves, said he doesn't support the slavery apology, although he has signed off on efforts to create a Civil Rights History Month in Georgia.

"If I had done something personally, yes, I would apologize," he said.

Brooks (Rep. Tyrone Brooks, D-Atlanta, chairman of the Georgia Association of Black Elected Officials) said he's not necessarily against the idea of a Confederate month - as long as similar recognition is given to the state's black history.

He is one of the sponsors of a plan to hang portraits of black leaders like Rosa Parks and Coretta Scott King at the state capitol.

"All of Georgia's history should be promoted and respected and highlighted," he said. "Hopefully this will lead us into some meaningful dialogue."

Personally, I think the idea would be a good one provided that GA is willing to also hold a Civil Rights History month, as proposed by Rep. Brooks. Pushing both simulatneously would clearly demonstrate to everyone that the movement was indeed motivated by history and not as a backlash against the slavery apology movement. (I personally believe Mullins is being truthful about his motives but I would tend to question the motives of some others that are backing his efforts.)

private berner
03-18-2007, 07:20 PM
Having lived in Ga. some time ago .I think it would do the smaller communities around the battlefields a world of good. They could be having the prisoners out cleaning, and levlin up the roads and ditches. Increase the income of the community by history potrails(spelling) and reenactments. I have friends in the state to this day , who graciously ride on their bikes to go to Gettysburgh with me. I shall gladly participate on any level when this comes about .

sbl
03-19-2007, 05:38 AM
Is it STILL all about cheap labor? :rolleyes:

D'Epineuil Zouave
04-03-2007, 12:13 PM
How about creating a Union Loyalist Heritage Month to recognize those Georgians who remained loyal to the United States during the Civil War?

Sources:

http://www.izzy.net/~michaelg/n-ga1.htm

http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/ungatr.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Loyalists-Union-Soldiers-Confederacy/dp/1555531245

http://www.amazon.com/South-Vs-Anti-Confederate-Southerners-Shaped/dp/0195156293/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1236957-6179807?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175620152&sr=1-1

HighPrvt
04-03-2007, 12:29 PM
How about creating a Union Loyalist Heritage Month to recognize those Georgians who remained loyal to the United States during the Civil War?

Sources:

http://www.izzy.net/~michaelg/n-ga1.htm

http://www.civilwararchive.com/Unreghst/ungatr.htm

http://www.amazon.com/Lincolns-Loyalists-Union-Soldiers-Confederacy/dp/1555531245

http://www.amazon.com/South-Vs-Anti-Confederate-Southerners-Shaped/dp/0195156293/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-1236957-6179807?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1175620152&sr=1-1


That'd go over real well.

Sen. Mullins is on the level, he is very pro heritage.

D'Epineuil Zouave
04-11-2007, 01:30 PM
That'd go over real well. I assume you mean that it would actually not go over real well. The implication being that what Southerns are never going to get over the fact that not everyone in the south was a diehard confederate? Heritage is not a one-sided coin. It's way past time to get over the Lost Cause mythology and be historically objective.

E.Brown
04-11-2007, 04:38 PM
I believe the implication is that there were far more confederate units in Georgia than federal, by quite a long shot. So that would leave one to believe that the vast majority of families in Georgia today,with ancestral ties to Civil War soldiers, who care about heritage, would more than likely be confederate decsendents. You are right, heritage is not a one sided coin, which is why a confederate history month is all the more improtant. Many would have any exitense of the confederacy or the old south, obliterated from the earth,particularly in the south! I don't know what part of the south you're in, (if at all,you dont even sign your name or have a location) but we regularly honor our federal ancestors, thru historicaly accurate living historys and doning the blue as much as possible. There is no Lost Cause mythology, that I know of, but there is a need for southerners to be able to be proud of what our ancestors achieved ( all of mine were poor farmers) during some of the toughest years of our history !

CivilWarBuff1863
04-12-2007, 12:02 AM
To every Confederate soldier that died in the Civil War let me just say that your struggle and fight was not in vain. Although I might be a Yankee I still think that what happened over 140 years ago lives on through their decendents. It was a terrible time in American history and nothing on earth can let us forget the bravery of those that gave their last full measure of devotion. To every last Civil War soldier, you are honored with the utmost respect and deserve the dignity of being called an American. I salute you all!

Doug Cooper
04-12-2007, 12:26 PM
Unbelievable. Is this guy from Mars, or did he just wake up after falling asleep for 50 years? It matters not what the intent is, the appearance is backlash and division to a majority of folks. A smart man would simply sponsor a bill called something like "Georgia Civil War History Month" if he really wants to help clean and repair and highlight GA CW sites, monuments, etc. Besides avoiding controversey, it will promote everything and everybody to help...and those folks who still have a problem with it won't be allowed to push an agenda.

Unless of course he really does mean it as backlash, in which case he is not doing the people of GA any favors. We need leaders with vision who can come up with better answers than those calculated to divide rather than unite.

Wounded_Zouave
04-12-2007, 01:31 PM
There is no Lost Cause mythology, that I know of... Yup, there is. Expand your reading horizons:

http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Lost-Cause-Civil-History/dp/0253338220/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0614426-9448731?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176402785&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-Across-America-Historic-Sites/dp/0684870673/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0614426-9448731?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176402926&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Rights-Political-Confederate-Constitutionalism/dp/0813918944

http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Rights-Political-Confederate-Constitutionalism/dp/0813918944

http://www.amazon.com/Confederates-Attic-Dispatches-Unfinished-Civil/dp/067975833X/ref=sid_dp_dp/104-0614426-9448731?ie=UTF8&qid=1176402926&sr=1-1

E.Brown
04-12-2007, 03:15 PM
Yup, there is. Expand your reading horizons:

http://www.amazon.com/Myth-Lost-Cause-Civil-History/dp/0253338220/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0614426-9448731?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176402785&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Lies-Across-America-Historic-Sites/dp/0684870673/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/104-0614426-9448731?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1176402926&sr=1-1

http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Rights-Political-Confederate-Constitutionalism/dp/0813918944

http://www.amazon.com/Southern-Rights-Political-Confederate-Constitutionalism/dp/0813918944

http://www.amazon.com/Confederates-Attic-Dispatches-Unfinished-Civil/dp/067975833X/ref=sid_dp_dp/104-0614426-9448731?ie=UTF8&qid=1176402926&sr=1-1


I appreciate the information on the books, some of which I've read, so I guess my journey of expanding my horizons, has begun. We all know of books written on the subject, the point I was making is that I know of no people (at least in my area ) that walk around feeling sorry for the " Lost Cause"or the "Myths" involved with it. I'm talking about the average southerner, not a generalization written in a book.

tompritchett
04-12-2007, 08:54 PM
We all know of books written on the subject, the point I was making is that I know of no people (at least in my area ) that walk around feeling sorry for the " Lost Cause"or the "Myths" involved with it. I'm talking about the average southerner, not a generalization written in a book.

Over the years that I have been reading this board, I can remember that there have been several posts that seem to promote the "Lost Cause" mythology.

Micah Trent
04-12-2007, 10:54 PM
Met one last year coming out of a rest stop on the Kentucky/Tenessee line. It was an old lady in her late 90's who's great grandfather fought for the south. I was on my way to the Civil War Show in Nashville along with some pards of mine...dressed out in our federal uniforms...and when she saw us...she laid into us. First, it was, "What's them **** yankees doin' here!", then the "Lost Cause". The ladies grandaughter apologized to us, but we told her no need too. We got a big laugh out it.