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Elaine Kessinger
07-12-2011, 08:04 PM
Fellow Citizens who are anxiously anticipating the 150th Manassas/Bull Run event (either of them):

It was over 100 degrees today in the Virginia piedmont, with very high humidity. Like the counterparts in period, many visitors to this beautiful area of Virginia are not familiar with the climate.

To avoid health issues associated with heat/humidity/exertion I offer a few bits of information.

1) Start NOW!! to consume copious quantities of water. If you need a "taste" to your water, try lemonade powder, pink lemonade powder or fruit juice.

At the event: Lemonade powder and pink lemonade powder were both available in period.

A period recipe for switchel: Equal parts of vinegar (cider or raspberry) and honey. Mix this well and it forms the concentrate. Combine the concentrate with water - 2 tablespooons concentrate to 1 cup water. You may want to adjust the amount of water to make it stronger or weaker according to your taste. (Thanks, Miz Jen)

An excellent article on hot weather beverages (and practical advice on heat safety) from Virginia Mescher: http://www.raggedsoldier.com/hotweather.html

DRINK YOUR WATER

2) Start to walk in the heat for short bits of time to accustom yourself to life without a/c. Start slow and carry water with you.

Guide for Walking Trails: http://www.traillink.com/home.aspx

DRINK YOUR WATER....

3) Dress properly: Use drawers and powder to avoid chafing while wearing a dress. Choose loose weave natural fiber clothing. Cover your head with a hat or sunbonnet.

Several vendors will have sunbonnets and straw sun hats at the event. Vendors feel free to plug in this thread.

DRINK YOUR WATER....

4) Know the symptoms of heat illnesses. Watch for symptoms in yourself, your family, and your "neighbors." Especially watch children, who may not watch themselves.

Sunburn- Redness and pain in the skin. In severe cases there is also swelling, blisters, fever, and headaches.

Heat Cramps - Heavy sweating and painful spasms usually in the leg or abdomen muscles.

Heat Exhaustion - The person becomes weak and is sweating heavily. The skin is cold, pale and clammy. The pulse becomes thready. Fainting and vomiting accompanies heat exhaustion.

Heatstroke/Sunstroke - High body temperature (106 degrees or higher) along with hot dry skin and a rapid and strong pulse. Unconsciousness is possible.

*** Seek an EMT if necessary. It is less embarrassing to be "fussed over" by an EMT at the event than to have an ambulance called on your behalf because you left treatment too late.***

DRINK YOUR WATER.....

5) Sunscreen & Insect Repellent- Caring for your modern health is not "farby."

China container period acceptable for ointments and salves: http://www.marylandchina.com/apps/product?id=678&categoryId=19&subCategoryId=34

Burt's Bees Natural Insect Repellent (http://www.burtsbees.com/natural-products/outdoor/herbal-insect-repellent.html?subCategoryId=-139) in a glass (http://www.sks-science.com/glass-laboratory-bottles-p-7898.html) or pottery container may work well. Also smoke from the campfires will serve as an insect repellent. You might try some cotton netting over your sleeping quarters.

DRINK YOUR WATER...

Please begin now to accustom yourself to the heat, humidity, and exertion you will experience at this event. Good luck. I'll see you there.

DRINK YOUR WATER...

Craig L Barry
07-12-2011, 08:15 PM
What is the forecast for Northern Virginia in about ten days? Any relief in sight?
Down here in TN it is brutal.

Blair
07-12-2011, 08:43 PM
Suggestion,
If the temps are to be anything like they were at the 125 th...
Cover your back side with a lot of water and/or Gatorade.
I care not which facet of the hobby you come from... just keep well hydrated!

RedDevil59
07-12-2011, 10:12 PM
What is the forecast for Northern Virginia in about ten days? Any relief in sight?
Down here in TN it is brutal.

10 day has the low 90's here in NoVa on 7/21 which is very average for this area at this time of year.

Craig L Barry
07-13-2011, 02:47 AM
Curious as what the temp might be like at 9:30 am when the battles are scheduled.
Hopefully not 90 degrees + at that hour of the day?

Pvt Schnapps
07-13-2011, 07:59 AM
I believe the normal high this time of year is close to 90. At 9:30 it should be closer to 80, though still a mite uncomfortable due to the humidity. The heat should gradually increase to the upper 80's around noon. If you hydrate and pace yourself you should be OK. That said, anyone concerned about the size and extent of the property will be grateful for the convenience of the battlefield to the camping area. And I think all of us will be happy to see the ice vendors come around. :)

wheres_my_horse
07-13-2011, 10:10 AM
Craig,

Right now, 10:05 am, Accuweather has 86 degrees in Manassas with a "real feel" of 97. Catharpin (site of the Pageland registration) is 85 with a real feel of 90. Not pretty.

The extended forecast (which is really spitting in the wind) shows 99, 99, 97 and 98 for Thursday through Sunday of the Event.

The farmer's almanac says "18-22 scattered T-storms, warm and humid 23-27 scattered T-storms, seasonable"

Hopefully my mileage will vary...

Elaine Kessinger
07-13-2011, 10:36 AM
My point, Gents, was to remind the Citizens that they, too, need to start getting accustomed to being in HEAT, Humidity, Blazing Sunlight, and Bug-Infested Nature if the event organizers are to keep the participants participating. The advice I was giving has been a hot topic for the military folks for awhile now and the Citizens need reminding that the advice is not just for the folks running around a battlefield.

Even 80 degrees and humid can still feel uncomfortably warm to a person accustomed to sitting in a/c for most of the day.. a mile hike in the heat and humidity from camp to battlefield viewing area can still spell trouble for someone accustomed to walking a few yards from a/c building to a/c vehicle...

Citizens include not only the "usual suspects" who are accustomed to re-enacting in hot weather, but also the folks most at risk in heat emergencies, children and senior citizens. We've got citizens who are joining us at these events who are dressing for the first time, or the first time in years. It is up to us, the "usual suspects" to advise these folks on safe participation... and if that takes me pointing out that The Message About Heat Safety is meant for them too.. I'll put on my Mom Bonnet and do so.

Again Citizens, do your part... DRINK YOUR WATER... and start adding the stroll in the heat to your daily routine.

Anders
07-13-2011, 11:13 AM
Been pushing the SD boys for months to get in shape- should have been training in March for this....I am up to running 2 miles each morning and biking in the evening......at least 6-10 miles.

Dropping 10 lbs will make all the difference 10 days from now.

Pards,

CameronsHighlander
07-15-2011, 02:19 AM
this should not just go for Civilians but Military as well. Hopefully the Am's when the battles are scheduled we will get a little cooler then 100+

KiltedOne
07-15-2011, 04:28 PM
The Nov 15th update from the NWS:

Wednesday Jul 20 - Partly Cloudy - Hi:95°Lo:73°

Thursday Jul 21 - Partly Cloudy - Hi:95°Lo:77°

Friday Jul 22 - Partly Cloudy - Hi:105°Lo:79°

Saturday Jul 23 - Mostly Sunny - Hi:101°Lo:79°

Sunday Jul 24 - Sunny - Hi:100°Lo:79°



B Mackay
Pvt 97th PVI

Julio C. Zangroniz
07-25-2011, 11:27 PM
Elaine,
I drank my water.
Tried to wear a bonnet at First Manassas, as you suggested, but the guys just laughed at me and I simply couldn't take the derision.
Almost "faded out" halfway through the Saturday battle, but the ice/water angels brought me back to health.
Sunday was a breeze, literally.
Images to come. Be ready to see "stunning stuff."
Julio

Elaine Kessinger
07-26-2011, 11:00 AM
Julio-
I'm glad you drank your water, both from your canteen (How'd a news-hound like yourself come by a piece of military equipment, anyway? One of your military friends is gonna be in some serious trouble with his QM dept.!) and from the Ice Angels (you'll want to "go cany" around those Ice Angels in '62, '63, '64... Dead Horse and Dead Soldier play h*** with the clarity of civilian water sources)

I'll let you play the "English is my second language" card when I remind you my advice was actually to, "Cover your head with a hat or sunbonnet." Your friends were very mean to laugh at you. Perhaps the Liberty Rifles would welcome your fondness for wearing sunbonnets and tolerance for being laughed at to their next theatrical endeavor.

The breeze on Sunday was heavenly.

I can't wait to see my impromptu portrayal of Lady "Give all to the Cause" among your photographs. I'm just sorry I wasn't "attired" at the time.
-Elaine

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For the rest of you folks, I hope my advice proved helpful. I simply wanted everyone to stay safe so that they could have a happy time at the hot event. I hope to see y'all at future events because you took the care to be safe at this one.

I drove to this event with my brother, who had to leave due to heat issues on Friday evening. With he and several friends going home because of the heat and feeling the heat myself, I knew I wouldn't be focused on the event. So I left on Friday evening too (Okay, wee small hours of Sat. morning, but who's counting?). I returned on Sat. evening and Sun. afternoon and was very glad to talk with those of you I could. :-) Thanks to the 28th Massachusetts, Co. B and the Brady's Michigan Sharpshooters portraying the 69th NY Militia Volunteers for letting me tag along.

Julio C. Zangroniz
07-27-2011, 04:53 AM
Elaine,
Lady Liberty never looked better.
Wish I had taken the corn with me...!
Thanks for your cooperation.
Julio