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Spinster
08-18-2010, 04:25 PM
Moderator Note: Posted on behalf of Terry Crowder, Commander of the First Federal Divsion
August 18, 2010
Gentlemen and Ladies
Twin Rivers Campaign Site and Planning Visit
First Federal Division Col. Terry Crowder Commanding-Cleburne’s Division Gen. Joe Way Commanding
Blue Gray Alliance
This site visit was made by over 50 people who arrived with trucks, tractors, mowers, and numerous other equipment to prepare this for the finest combined reenactment ever.
This was the third visit and never has there been as in depth planning as you are about to see, feel, hear and smell.
While it may be considered a “Mainstream Event”, it will surely accommodate the hardest of hard core campaigners with a new level of true “living and fighting history. This has been promised to be and event for “EVERYONE” and every effort has been made to do so. In the following paragraphs, we will try to answer as many of your questions as possible.
The Land
Well over 1500 acres, this site offers every aspect of a true living history experience. It is large enough we have not included all of it for fear of losing someone in the fights. The lay of the land is nearly perfect with slight rolling hills which provide cover and separation from any modern intrusion. For those who chose to camp static, campaign, mixed military, and yes, even modern camps are available at a second location nearby.
The land has a large number of open and cleared (will be mowed in mid Oct so it will NOT look fresh) hay fields with each field separated and surrounded by woods and creeks of various depths and levels. Each has been scouted and is completely passable and can be maneuvered with very slight difficulty. All trails and roads are dirt and have no modern obstacles to cross. There is a couple fences but are deep in the wooded sections and can be removed if you should happen upon them. As you can see from the included map, you will be capable of marching and fighting for many days without interruption other than an enemy patrol or, ambush.
All camps are situated in sections that will accommodate your men’s wishes, If they wish to camp in company streets or in the woods. Should you have split wishes, they will be adjacent to each other for ease of maneuvers. Campaigners will have “sinks” already placed for them and port a lets will be placed in strategic locations that are out of site of the camps. Mixed camps will have plenty of port a lets as well. The Thursday / Friday / and early Saturday fighting will be held throughout the entire surrounding land far enough away from the mainstream section of the site.
The mainstream part of the event will be for the scripted battles on Saturday and Sunday. This land is a large “amphitheatre” looking section. Perfect for what it will be used for. It is centered in the site and everything will be close enough for all to see as well as some very exciting scenarios. It is located a few miles EAST of Collierville Tenn on Hwy 72 and access is right on the highway so it will be clearly marked and very easy to gain entry. A hard gravel road will take you directly to registration and access roads are clear and easy for one way access to unload and move. Parking is within yards and on site and shuttles will be provided to drop you off after you park.
Amenities:
Very through and careful planning has been done. Contracts have been signed and all wood, hay, straw (bedding material) is already set for distribution. We have also arranged for backup supplies should we exceed our expectations so no one will be left out. Water is plentiful with actually two backup plans as well. There are numerous lakes throughout the site and all have been inspected for access to water horses at each. This was a working cattle farm a few years back so supply is great. Drinking water will be located at all strategic point locations with a operating plan of re-supply available 24 hours a day. We have not one but two Medical plans for any and all emergencies with local fire, EMS, evac and on field medical personal that will be carrying the most up to date radio equipment for safety of every person attending.
Fighting and Battles:
Welcome to the new and better reenacting world
It is our sincere hope that you will arrive on site by Wednesday evening and be ready to begin on Thursday NOON. After two years of planning, studying, and a couple surveys, we have developed a new format for the upcoming 150th National Events being sponsored by the Blue Gray Alliance. They are all planned with this format and will offer the same for EVERY person reenacting no matter what their style is. No more will be jammed into small tight pitiful fields. No more sitting in camp till it is your turn to stand in line and fire across a 100 yard field at each other and then go back and sit in camp. The day of the SOLDIER has arrived.
This will begin with each unit/company/battalion/brigade receiving written orders to move and be prepared for engagements at any time. Our town of Dover which will be set and handled by none other than our own Mrs Terre Lawson will be the opening engagements with the Federals conscripting wagons and food supplies from them, followed by visits from the CS as well as Col. Nick Medich’s Home Guard. Your civilians are welcome to be a part of the many planned activities and engagements that will take place at the town. Please have them contact Mrs. Lawson for details and instruction as to their participation.
Outpost and pickets will no longer sit in place and never see actions. All cavalry will be placed with each movement and will serve as cavalry served. Artillery will be at the ready at all times and each camp will need to be prepared to repulse attack at any given time. For this event, we will be portraying the movements and actions of the armies during the three days prior to the capture of Fort Donelson. It will be constant, aggressive, passive and exciting. All cavalry will portray Gen. Forrest attack on the Union flank for the scripted battle on Saturday. They will also create a number of conflicts between the CS and US Cavalry as well. The scripted battle will be the actual attack on the fort and will cover in detail the two days of fighting before the surrender which will also be recreated in the town of Dover to end the event. The trenches and fort construction will begin in October so it will not appear to new for the November date.
Basic site map Below
http://f1800.mail.yahoo.com/ya/download?mid=1%5f4103006%5fAEoIw0MAAKk6TGxEAQuvDEF RqTw&pid=3&fid=Inbox&inline=1
Notes of Interest:
The average mean temperature for this area for the week of November 8 through the 15 is a high of 78 and a low of 53 with little to no rain. We have arranged for several large pieces of equipment as an emergency plan should the unforeseen occur so no one will have undue difficulties at or after this event.
As of this writing, the Blue Gray Alliance is already in the planning and has working agreements with and for the following events to follow this format and provide every re enactor with the finest possible experience at each one. Two Armies, working together as one organization, by the reenactors and for the reenactors.
Wilson’s Creek August 10- 14 2011
Shiloh March 29- April 1 2012
Raymond Vicksburg October 18 – 21 2012
Chickamauga September 2013
______________________________
End of Terry Crowder's message
Spinster
08-18-2010, 04:30 PM
Folks,
You can register here:
http://www.cleburnes-division.com/
Or follow the path through the First Federal Division Website
http://www.firstfederaldivision.com/news_events.html
But, its time------folks can't plan for you if you don't tell them you are coming. And you do that by registering.
RJSamp
08-18-2010, 09:59 PM
Thanks Terre! This one will be a good one!
billwatson2
08-19-2010, 06:12 AM
I'm in. Civilian this time. Wife, too.
captdougofky
08-19-2010, 11:18 AM
Plenty of Artillery and Cav making a show, Infantry draggings its feet a little. Big events are not big unless Infantry out shines the other two Branches. I been to enough Nationals to make that statement. Big numbers on the Infantry side is the show. Artillery and Cav are the side acts. I know we will have Civilian, Medical etc. I don't want to leave anyone out, but its not a National event without strong Infantry on the ground. Soon to be Sept. with Nov. around the corner. Hope the numbers improve.
Always
Doug Thomas
Lyons-Kentucky CS
Michael Pierpoint
08-19-2010, 03:46 PM
Boy-oh
This will be a good one, so if you have not registered do so. There will be no walk ons.
johnerys
08-23-2010, 04:06 AM
Mrs Lawson,
Since those of us who will be coming with the Medich Bttn/homegaurd will be living in the village, does that mean we can count on you and the other villagers for cooking, ect, and having a roof over out heads for the weekend?
PaperPusher
08-23-2010, 06:00 AM
I'm anxiously awaiting the answer on this one. I may have to take on a different role for this event if her answer is yes! haha!
Spinster
08-23-2010, 07:29 AM
Lets see.
Shelter:
Buckboard wagon, Ten feet long with low slung running gear. Three feet wide in grain box. Now just exactly how cozy do you want to get to four women with belt knives and lips full of snuff?
Food:
Four years ago, I came into 100 pounds of wevilly hominey. There's still 25 pounds left.
Firewood:
Yes, as a matter of fact, I DO own an axe.
"A man with a black powder pistol is just a man with a black powder pistol........but a woman with an ax is a WOMAN WITH AN AXE!" Bill Rambo, 140th Franklin
Spinster
08-23-2010, 08:13 AM
Now-------that was a wisecrack. Here's a more serious answer.
The relationship between soldier and citizen is always an uneasy one.
Cheered one moment, shunned the next, the soldier's lot is not pleasant, nor is his duty easy.
For a citizen, one army is as bad as another. Oh, the experience can be painted up with high-minded politics and fancy words.......or not......The result is the same. Ruined crops, missing livestock, damaged land, destroyed homes.
The Home Guard of Dover were known to their neighbors----some of whom cheered them, some of whom would question their motives. There will be those who think them heros and those who think them cowards. You'll see that same reaction here.
The registration button for civilians living in the Town of Dover will be on the website shortly. The requirements are simple.
The Town of Dover is a civilian area. Be prepared to live, work and play in in period dress, for the duration of the event. If you have something modern, keep it hidden from view.
If we had a million dollars, we'd build a town of period buildings--and run out of room and money. Your tent is your home--close the door if you have things inside that would detract .
The Town may be subject to miltary action at various times (Rules of Engagement are being developed now). Home Guard or other military forces may come through the town (see historical record for clues). At certain times, movement in and out of the Town may be limited for your safety, or you may have to obtain a pass and escort from a military authority to travel.
This area is not for military/family camping---those camps are designated in a different area.
For some, this is the first time they will camp as 'civilian only'. There will be folks around with experience in that, and glad to answer questions.
As we move into the 150th cycle, we hope this event will give a new learning opportunity for all of us, and a chance to develop and practice the skills that were everyday life for those on the Homefront.
Welcome.
Confederal
08-23-2010, 10:19 AM
I am sure some of the Federals will be looking for Pies and Sweets. I will warn the men to not plan getting any Kisses from any of the Ladies as Mr. Lawson does have a big skillet and seems like she can do other things with it besides Cook.
Confederal
ILYankee5
08-24-2010, 05:17 PM
I am sure some of the Federals will be looking for Pies and Sweets. I will warn the men to not plan getting any Kisses from any of the Ladies as Mr. Lawson does have a big skillet and seems like she can do other things with it besides Cook.
Confederal
Darn! That's to bad. This event is going to be awesome...hats off to those working on this and those planning to attend. The campaign company is growing...hope to have a good showing for this one.
Spinster
08-24-2010, 06:12 PM
Capt Graves,
A burly feller with an attitude is rumoured to be purveying needful things to the likes of you.
Might want bring Federal dollars. He wins at mumblety-peg.
johnerys
08-24-2010, 06:18 PM
Mrs Lawson, thanks for the reply, sarcastic or not. I was of the impression that as Home Guards ( coming as military) we would be part of the villagers, like a local militia, hence my comments about living in the town. Now I may have to reconsider coming, don't know if my knees can take sleeping on the ground in November, and as I was told when I entered this hobby, I have to go to work on Monday.
Spinster
08-24-2010, 07:16 PM
John,
I've made a poor vocabulary choice in the post above.
If you are DRESSED as a civilian male---then you ARE a civilian male, and as such, do live within the boundaries of the Town of Dover. Your service in the Home Guard does not change your civilian status.
What's not allowed within the Town are permanent residents wearing military uniforms--north or south. Feller has on a uniform, off to war he goes---now his army may take possession of the town, or not, as the history and scenario dictates, but he does not live there.
You do.
And if I've added further confusion, we'll need to get a clarification from the bossman. I understand the Home Guard members to be wearing in civilian clothing. I've been wrong before.
PMB1861
08-24-2010, 07:42 PM
Food:
Four years ago, I came into 100 pounds of wevilly hominey. There's still 25 pounds left.
At the risk of my soul which is probably going to the hot place anyways...
There is a bible parable in that bag of hominey, because it just keeps on giving and giving.
desotobob
08-24-2010, 08:22 PM
Mr. Rys - As Mayor of the town of Dover, we will welcome the Home Guard with open arms - as long as you are on the correct side of the war. It is up to you and your troops to determine which is the CORRECT side.
Adjt. Way - If wevilly hominy is your cup of tea, we can accomodate. Otherwise, I think you will find better fare in Gen'l Way's camp.
I have some rancid beef I can add to Ms. Lawson's hominy. It has been in my ice house for the last 4 years and should only reek when thawed.
As far as an axe, not only do I have one, I also have a stout shovel.
(Pie is an option, but an expensive option.)
Spinster
08-24-2010, 09:21 PM
At the risk of my soul which is probably going to the hot place anyways...
There is a bible parable in that bag of hominey, because it just keeps on giving and giving.
And the parable continues---like Grace, that 100 pound bag of hominey was given to me freely, and is available to the just and the unjust, to those who come late to rollcall and those who come early......
It rode around for a week in a sack in a red spring wagon too, and nobody beat it down with a rifle stock, or fried it up into johnny cake.
I wonder if the apple worms got in it? I might better unpack the truck and look at some of those groceries before I serve them out again.
After all, there are at least 25 pounds left. This was little more than 15.
http://www.cwreenactors.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=124&pictureid=804
flattop32355
08-24-2010, 09:35 PM
Somewhere under that slat bonnet is a woman to be dealt with....carefully.
johnerys
08-25-2010, 04:11 AM
Thank you all for clearing up any misconceptions on my part, just wanted to be sure of what Iwas getting into. Its about an 11 hour drive down for me, and I didnt want to get there only to find I couln't hack it for the weekend. I'd hate to be the one to spoil it for those around me.
Yes, we have been informed to wear civilian attire, you may see the occasional greatcoat if it gets chilly, but by and large we have a good "veteran" group with lots of experience who should fit in well.
Mint Julep
08-25-2010, 08:56 PM
I have had an email forwarded to me that suggests the event site has relocated across the state line and closer to Corinth. I can find no mention of such anywhere, including the event website, and just wanted to be able to squash a rumor in the making if necessary.
Can someone with a stake in the game confirm or deny that the site has never moved, relocated, or otherwise shifted?
Thanks, I knew you could.
WestTN_reb
08-25-2010, 10:34 PM
I have had an email forwarded to me that suggests the event site has relocated across the state line and closer to Corinth. I can find no mention of such anywhere, including the event website, and just wanted to be able to squash a rumor in the making if necessary.
Can someone with a stake in the game confirm or deny that the site has never moved, relocated, or otherwise shifted?
Thanks, I knew you could.At our battalion meeting last week, this was discussed. If I understood correctly, the landowner in Collierville decided to try to change parts of the agreement when the FCD folks came down to work on the site. Also, there have been some less than cooperative folks on the Battle of Collierville committee.
The FCD left in disgust, and have made contact with Burton's Sugar Farm in Michigan City, MS. Registration is to be at Mr. Burton's barn, where you will get directions to the event site (about a mile down the road). IIRC, the ball will also be held at Burton's barn.
I hope others will post and clear up the muddy mess I've made of this explanation.
desotobob
08-25-2010, 11:21 PM
Mr. MJ - the site has been moved 1 mile west of Mr. Burton's Sugar Farm on 72 in MS. It is exactly 20 minutes east of the site that was pulled by the owner last week(the owner put money in front of commitments).
The site visit on First Federal's web page is describing the site we will be fighting and living on. Camps have been designated, sutlers are onboard, all amenities have been taken care of. Mr. Spain's explanation is correct, not muddied.
As an aside - and as an active participant - I am humbled by the activities of the Blue Gray Alliance of the August 13 weekend. Almost 40 members working together in the interest of all aspects of the reenacting community sought land that would be as pristine as we can get in this age of commercial farming. The active participation of Mr. Burton, the graciousness of Mr. Reed, the leadership of General's Way and Crowder will make this an event not to be missed. Register now, if you haven't. The planned tacticals alone will make this an event to be remembered. But if you come Federal, be aware of the citizens of Dover. We will be vigilent!
WestTN_reb
08-25-2010, 11:26 PM
Thanks Robert. I'm glad you chimed in on that one.
Spinster
08-25-2010, 11:28 PM
Thanks Minty One--this is just in the process of making its way through the various military channels and getting a website update.
You, more than most anyone, know what can and will go wrong in organizing a large event---and this particular thing is one of the top level nightmares
In a nutshell, and with no more drama than I can help:
Last Winter, a nice little group of folks spent a full weekend on a site walk, with maps and plans and such. Piffle--they got me on a horse for half the day to ride the more remote parts of the site, and you KNOW how much drama that was. Big Bugs sat down with the land owner, he drew lines on maps, a contract was worked up, some back and forth occurred, and a multi-page legal agreement was signed, sealed and delivered. That location went up on the website.
Folks went to work making plans. Scenario plans, infrastructure plans, wood, water, sanitation--all the stuff one does AFTER the land is secure.
A couple of weeks ago, a boatload of folks showed up with backhoes, tractors, bushhogs, shovels, picks and other implements of construction and destruction, in order to build Fort Donaldson.
The site was flat torn UP. Unuseable. I don't mean a little bit unuseable. I mean RUINT.
After a few hours of blowing gaskets, some calls were made and alternatives emerged. The whole parade of heavy equipment hied itself east about 25 miles to a temporary base of operations at Burton's Sugar Farm. This got us out of the broiling sun and into an air conditioned hunting lodge, through the generosity and hospitality of Mr. Burton.
In the course of the day, three other large tracts of property were reviewed for lay of land, open lands and forest, access roads, water accessibility, viewshed, EMS, and such.
A fine one was chosen--quite frankly, a much better tract of land than the one put under contract last January--and I thought that one pretty fine.
The landowner was available and ready--and goodness knows folks have laptops and printers all set these days. All those fellers who came to work got to do so, and were building on the works for Fort Donaldson by the time the weekend was out.
Communications went out to the Colonels within the next couple of days, and things are beginning to work down the chain of command.
The new site is near Michigan, Mississippi, and easily accessible off the four lane U S 72. Its about 25 miles east of the Collierville site.
Nope--not on Burton's Sugar Farm--but I do highly recommend the catfish dinner there.
In a year slam full of event-related coronaries , this was another one. This one resolved pretty quickly, but I'm gonna stay off committees for awhile. My heart won't take it.
WestTN_reb
08-26-2010, 03:00 AM
The new site is near Michigan, Mississippi, and easily accessible off the four lane U S 72. Its about 25 miles east of the Collierville site.
Nope--not on Burton's Sugar Farm--but I do highly recommend the catfish dinner there.
In a year slam full of event-related coronaries , this was another one. This one resolved pretty quickly, but I'm gonna stay off committees for awhile. My heart won't take it.To clarify, the town is Michigan City, Mississippi. It's almost dead center between Corinth and Memphis on Hwy. 72. The nearest town is Walnut, MS about 12 miles to the east.
My understanding is that while the event site is not at Burton's Sugar Farm, registration will be set up in Mr. Burton's barn. This registration location was chosen for its convenience, as well as its visibility from the highway.
Spinster
08-26-2010, 09:10 AM
Once again illustrating why it is SUCH an EXCELLENT idea that I find a driver to get me to events. :p I usually aim in the general direction, watch for cannon rolling down the road and get in caravan.......
billwatson2
08-26-2010, 09:46 AM
It is of no real consequence, but I am curious what the landowner did to the original site to tear it up. Log it? Roll it out into a planned subdivision?
As noted, just curious. If it's not worth sharing with the forum someone might drop me a line.
Spinster
08-26-2010, 10:55 AM
On the Collierville site, large areas of the viewshed had been scalped and scraped off, or excavated to heaps of dirt. Once smooth access roads had been heaved and damaged by heavy equipment. Access to areas designated for Confederate camps was gone. And while the fine Federal campaigner camps were still there, they'd march out into the Land of Big Doziers.
And that's the short list.
There was enough land left for an Olde Timey Days and Tractor Pull, with a fine view of stacked up culverts.
Leadership within Cleburn's Division and the First Federal Division stated that troops deserved better, and moved quickly to remedy the situation.
What I saw unfold was an amazing piece of work and cooperation by men of goodwill. We initially looked at Mr. Burton's farm and adjoining parcels, but could not get quick resolution to a dilemma related to a standing crop on an nearby parcel. (Some folks may remember the monetary cost of one commander's unauthorized march through a Tennessee soybean field a few years back). Nobody wished to repeat that error. Mr. Burton moved quickly and graciously, providing introductions to other landowners, and aid in logistical connections.
Cleburn's web master is out of pocket--they are working to get the site directions updated. First Federal's website holds the aerial of the Michigan City, Mississippi site, the same one posted here.
ILYankee5
08-26-2010, 09:25 PM
John,
Looks like we will be making two trips there this year! From what I've heard the site looks great. Sure hope I get to meet up with that fantastic Federal Provost...heck of guy right Mrs. Lawson?;) They don't come any better.
desotobob
08-26-2010, 09:34 PM
Seth - I will try and get an OK from Mr. Reed when you come down for Davis Mills to see the property for Twin Rivers before you leave on Sunday. I can at least show you from the roadside, but that does not do it justice. BTW - for all coming for Davis Mills - the aforementioned "all you can eat" catfish will be available Friday night.
ILYankee5
08-26-2010, 09:42 PM
Seth - I will try and get an OK from Mr. Reed when you come down for Davis Mills to see the property for Twin Rivers before you leave on Sunday. I can at least show you from the roadside, but that does not do it justice. BTW - for all coming for Davis Mills - the aforementioned "all you can eat" catfish will be available Friday night.
Robert,
That would be awesome! We boys from Southern Illinois are looking forward to it! Besides, I can't wait to meet up with my pards from the Jeff Davis Guard plus get my hands on some of that fish!
WestTN_reb
08-26-2010, 10:15 PM
Robert,
That would be awesome! We boys from Southern Illinois are looking forward to it! Besides, I can't wait to meet up with my pards from the Jeff Davis Guard plus get my hands on some of that fish!
The catfish dinner may seem a little pricey to some, but trust me it is well worth it. It truly is ALL YOU CAN EAT, and there's plenty to go around.
reddcorp
08-27-2010, 11:30 AM
Just curious, how does the catfish at this place compare to that served at Hagy's Catfish Hotel at Shiloh?
If it is as good, or better....I'm there. Pricey or no.
Andy "Lovecatfishmess" Redd
Spinster
08-27-2010, 01:45 PM
Andy.
Better. With ice cream. And fried okra.
And, while you may not recall, as some of your own men were suffering, but the last time I ate at the Catfish Hotel, there were unfortunate consequences such that sedation was required for the next 36 hours. I have little memory of the whole affair. Such was not the case after the recent dinner and in fact I took MyDaddy to visit family the next day
ILYankee5
08-27-2010, 02:26 PM
Andy.
Better. With ice cream. And fried okra.
And, while you may not recall, as some of your own men were suffering, but the last time I ate at the Catfish Hotel, there were unfortunate consequences such that sedation was required for the next 36 hours. I have little memory of the whole affair. Such was not the case after the recent dinner and in fact I took MyDaddy to visit family the next day
I'm psyched!!
reddcorp
08-27-2010, 04:30 PM
Andy.
Better. With ice cream. And fried okra.
And, while you may not recall, as some of your own men were suffering, but the last time I ate at the Catfish Hotel, there were unfortunate consequences such that sedation was required for the next 36 hours. I have little memory of the whole affair. Such was not the case after the recent dinner and in fact I took MyDaddy to visit family the next day
Captain Redd, your table (for 25) is ready.
desotobob
08-27-2010, 06:14 PM
Not to rain on anyone's hushpuppies and slaw, but "Catfish in the Barn" ends the last of October. It will be available for our Oct. 1 weekend, but will not be open for Twin Rivers.
For those coming to Twin Rivers and coming from Memphis, I can recommend the Olive Branch Catfish Company, not really out of the way. Link to location and menu below.
http://memphismenusonline.com/olive_branch_catfish_co.html
WestTN_reb
08-27-2010, 06:19 PM
Not to rain on anyone's hushpuppies and slaw, but "Catfish in the Barn" ends the last of October. It will be available for our Oct. 1 weekend, but will not be open for Twin Rivers.
All the more reason to come to our little shindig in October.
johnerys
08-27-2010, 07:45 PM
Site map won't come up, can someone post it here, or PM it to me?
Spinster
08-27-2010, 09:08 PM
I can't paste links worth a flip from an iPhone.
Go to my profile
Choose the album 'other images'
Its picture # 5
Dont mind all the oxen looking over your shoulder in that album. They may slime you, but they don't bite
desotobob
08-29-2010, 12:31 PM
For all those good citizens of Dover at the Twin Rivers campaign:
Below is the link of the 1860 Census of Stewart County TN. District 7 is the Dover area, and at the bottom is the Town of Dover itself. Now I know this is not an immersion event, but just thought some might be interested on their neighbours at the time of the battle.
http://www.tngenweb.org/stewart/1860census2.htm
RJSamp
09-04-2010, 10:23 AM
Updates from the Commanders
The” trenches” for the Ft. Donelson event has been lifted from the original trenches documents and have been overlaid onto this site for the event. The FFD Topo Engineers (Maj. Don Erickson and Evan Castle) have done a terrific job and will see to the accurate details for this plan.
As of this posting, workers are now doing any needed repairs or adjustments to the many miles of dirt roads and various trials throughout the entire site and construction is in process for crossing a relatively large creek on the back side where some of the engagements will most likely (maybe) happen. (bring extra socks). This is being performed to accommodate the wagons for supplies and troop movement.
The BGA will make another site visit and work day with lots of equipment in Mid October to begin construction on the trenches as well as mowing and final clearing of campsites. Placement of all amenities will then be determined to keep them out of site and centrally located for Quartermasters and provost work as well.
Colonel Terry Crowder, Commanding
Gentleman,
We have great ground at this site and there is going to be plenty of fighting for all of our boys. I can remember the last time that we were made fun of because of numbers and it is not a pretty thing. I recently visited the site we are going to use and there is enough ground to for us to fight all day and actually portray a real army in action with boy going to a coming from action. There are woods and streams to go through and great places to ambush the Confederates. Our camp site offers woods or field to camp in and as easy access. This is going to be a great event and it would be a shame for any of our men to miss it and then hear about it and go I sure wish I had gone. Now is the time if you have not already registered to get it in. Talk to your men and get them motivated and registered. Let put the FFD on par with the boys in gray and get the numbers up. We can do this! Come on men join me in the fight.
Michael C. Zimmer, Lt Col
Chief of Staff
First Federal Division
David Hulsey
09-12-2010, 01:35 PM
Hey Mark,
if you see this could give us some idea if there are any guys from the FFD that are sending in their registrations.Cause I believe the success of this event could hinge on whether they show up or not.With all the hard work you guys are putting into this I sure would hate for it to look like BricesCrossroads.
I will be there unless the good lord has other plans.Thanks for any info you can give.
Spinster
09-12-2010, 02:03 PM
David,
Both Cleburns command and FFD are out at Wilson's Creek this weekend, doing the site walk on the next one. It will be several days before folks are home and have time to come back to the top.
Web site updates are slow in coming through the webmaster---there are a lot of irons in the fire here. I know I just got one that I'd needed more than a month.
Jubilo
09-12-2010, 04:01 PM
I agree with Mr. Hulsey ; the Federal faithful await the "way."
all for the old flag,
David Corbett
captdougofky
09-13-2010, 06:59 AM
Hey Mark,
if you see this could give us some idea if there are any guys from the FFD that are sending in their registrations.Cause I believe the success of this event could hinge on whether they show up or not.With all the hard work you guys are putting into this I sure would hate for it to look like BricesCrossroads.
I will be there unless the good lord has other plans.Thanks for any info you can give.
David
You and I are thinking alike. I was at the Crossroads. With little Federal Infantry to speak of, it was anything but a National. I had a good view for my location. Cross-dressing playing Federal Artillery. The location may play into folks signing up. Northern Miss. is a drive for our Federal counter parts. One can hope I do.
Always
Doug Thomas
Lyons Battery CS
Kentucky
RJSamp
09-17-2010, 09:21 PM
Gentlemen,
It is with great pleasure that I am sending this update. I wanted to keep you all informed. Our Federal participation to the event has tripled in the past three weeks. Registration is coming in at a steady rate every day now and I wanted to thank all of your for your great response so far.
As of this morning, the ratio is now 1.5 CS to 1.0 US and this does NOT include civilians. As of this writing, the US is catching up with the CS at a good rate. We are a bit light in the Artillery but I received a call today informing me of another big gun and crew registered after the figures were published. Cavalry is about even and civilians are also about even.
Mrs. Lawson is doing a great job with the plan for our folks who wish to be a part of this event and not sit in their camps and cook all the time. WE promised to have something for everyone and we are well on our way.
I cannot imagine anyone missing this great adventure. The travel will be forgotten and the tremendous experience will be all that they will carry for years to come. Keep up the good work and make the phone call to everyone you know so they do NOT miss out on this one.
I will make another site visit October 1 for another work day and really could use some of you to make it as well to help layout and plan for your folks. Our CS friends are going above and beyond on this and are working feverishly to insure every detail. Everything is coming together better than expected and at the rate we are going, we will close registration as planned on Oct. I so we can insure proper amenities for every person who registers.
Colonel Terry Crowder, Commanding
First Federal Division
flattop32355
09-21-2010, 07:23 PM
Registration for Nathaniel and I is now sent in.
We may be the only two Ohio reenactors who attend, but we'll be there.
RJSamp
09-21-2010, 08:19 PM
Thanks Bernie, it will good to see you again!
PaperPusher
09-28-2010, 12:17 PM
Just wanted to drop a note to let everyone know that I will not be home this weekend due to an extended site visit to put the finishing touches on the Twin Rivers event. If you post a registration online Wednesday thru Sunday it very likely will not be posted until Monday morning when I return to the office. Rest assured that any registrations made over the next few days will be posted to the registrations.
I encourage anyone who has not registered yet to consider coming to this event. We have around 200 head of horses registered and a good number of infantry in nearly even force ratios at this point. Thursday and Friday battles will be of a move to contact nature. We will continually have a company or battalion committed to the field with cavalry escorts and supply wagons. You could run into Federal Cavalry or Infantry with greater or less numbers than you posses. The commanders will then communicate to headquarters via mounted courier their position and the strength of their opposing force. It will be much like armies on the move during the war. We fully expect to have to go and find those who become "lost" on the property. I would say this would be one to experience for sure.
We will spend the day Thursday and Friday digging the rifle trenches to the elevations originally used at Fort Donelson. No drainage ditches to fight out of here. We have set our minds to recreate around 1000 ft of entrenchments as close to original as we can. That's a considerable amount of digging.
Feel free to contact me via email markway00@aol.com or by phone 850-396-3224 if you need any further information on the event.
Daniel Keith
10-01-2010, 01:13 PM
I know that seems like a stupid question, but I was wondering it that the deadline for entry was last night at midnight or tonight at midnight?
I have already signed up, but might have some more men that may.
Daniel Keith
4th Mo
ILYankee5
10-04-2010, 02:43 PM
Just wanted to drop a note to let everyone know that I will not be home this weekend due to an extended site visit to put the finishing touches on the Twin Rivers event. If you post a registration online Wednesday thru Sunday it very likely will not be posted until Monday morning when I return to the office. Rest assured that any registrations made over the next few days will be posted to the registrations.
I encourage anyone who has not registered yet to consider coming to this event. We have around 200 head of horses registered and a good number of infantry in nearly even force ratios at this point. Thursday and Friday battles will be of a move to contact nature. We will continually have a company or battalion committed to the field with cavalry escorts and supply wagons. You could run into Federal Cavalry or Infantry with greater or less numbers than you posses. The commanders will then communicate to headquarters via mounted courier their position and the strength of their opposing force. It will be much like armies on the move during the war. We fully expect to have to go and find those who become "lost" on the property. I would say this would be one to experience for sure.
We will spend the day Thursday and Friday digging the rifle trenches to the elevations originally used at Fort Donelson. No drainage ditches to fight out of here. We have set our minds to recreate around 1000 ft of entrenchments as close to original as we can. That's a considerable amount of digging.
Feel free to contact me via email markway00@aol.com or by phone 850-396-3224 if you need any further information on the event.
This sounds amazing!!
Spinster
10-04-2010, 03:18 PM
Daniel,
There was nobody in authority around to answer your question, when you asked it--they were all hooking hay, stacking wood and moving fence.
Being a Certified Silk Pillow Princess myself, my task was to point where the bushhog needed to work next to clear parking and such.......
The registrar is probably just pulling back into his driveway today. Get your extra men on and get their Paypal in today. They'll make it.
PaperPusher
10-06-2010, 09:33 AM
Many of us, including the lovely and enchanting Ms. Lawson spent the better part of last week putting everything in place for the event. Hay was stacked in each of the camps and covered for immediate distribution to the cavalry. Firewood, which burns slow and hot (I tried it out) is in ample piles in several locations within the event site. The camp areas look good and roads have been cut to accomodate one way traffic when unloading and loading your gear. My suggestion to anyone would be, keep it simple and compact when packing your gear for this event. There is a nice canopy on the Confederate camp. Federal camp is also nicely situated with room for many more than have registered. All amenities are in place and ready to go some four weeks from the event date. The rifle pits are very well laid out with the original line being followed as it was at Fort Donelson, with all of the cutbacks, gaps and artillery emplacements. Gen. Crowder's Staff (FFD) have posted some nice pictures in a multipage site evaluation that went out yesterday. If the pics do not end up here by the graces of one of his staff I will see about getting them posted on here for all to see. We have cut a road along the creek and within the vicinity of the original rail bed, which is still occasionally used, and have opened the entire event site for use in move to contact battles. I would strongly suggest some "foot" conditioning in order to avoid those pesky blisters you may come by when marching around the site. I do not believe I have seen a site more suitable for a large scale reenactment in years. I truly think all the attendees will find it enjoyable and satisfying. Battalion and company commanders will surely find it a challenge at best. I would also suggest you tuck a compass in your haversack just in case (that should tell you how easily you may get "lost").
Registration will remain open until November 1, 2010. Anyone who has not registered and is interested feel free to register. If your company or battalion is not attending we can suitably place you with a functioning command and would love to have you attend.
I am still playing catchup on the registrations that were sent while I was at the site. Should take me the remainder of the day to get finished and have everyone posted.
Hope to see you all in November.
RJSamp
10-06-2010, 10:23 PM
This is from Terri Crowder, I'll see if I can get this posted with the pictures.
4th Site visit
October 4, 2010
Michigan City MS. Twin Rivers Event
Four members of the FFD arrived on site at about noon Friday and immediately were greeted by a large number of Cleburne’s Division members who had been on site since about Wednesday. I would like to acknowledge the 30 or more folks of the CS that brought heavy construction equipment a great distance at their own personal expense and volunteered the entire 5 days of relentless and difficult site preparations for both armies. Never, have I seen such dedication and commitment to insure the success of this monumental first time ever event. Bulldozer, back hoes, several tractors with brush hogs, large flat bed trailers, numerous trucks, including dump bed as well. We all owe them a tremendous salute for the many hours of hard labor.
I would also like to acknowledge Ms Terri Lawson who drove all the way from Alabama to be there in supervising the layout and planning for the folks who will participating as civilians in the Town of Dover. Please forward to all your folks that this will be the very first time that heavy interaction between armies as well as Home Guard and civilians will be taking place throughout the entire 4 days. Your civilians will be part of a number of planned “Living History” live scenarios as well as non planned influences on this town. All are welcome and just need to contact Ms. Lawson so she can plan the schedule and coordinate with the army commanders as well.
The construction of the inner and outer trenches were completed upon my arrival except for the final grade on the inside embankments. The ground is so hard that an excavator had to be called in to construct them. They are a perfect match for the original trenches that surrounded the Fort thanks to our terrific engineers and I can tell you the gun pits (locations) are so detailed that you could cut paper with the razor sharp angels of each line. They are approx. 1500ft long (outer) and the inner is about 700 ft long. (see pictures below).
Note the safety line that has been cut to insure no one goes to close to the 18 guns that will be in the fort above. Some of you will overtake these trenches and the rest of us will certainly fight for them.
They hauled and set up 600 bales of hay and covered it with large black tarps to protect it until the event and placed it in each camp. We also have a back up supply which is 20 minutes away should the need arise.
Eight or more truck loads (full cords) of seasoned and split oak firewood was delivered and divided between the camps and placed is strategic locations. The cost of this wood was extreme but we felt it was necessary for the camps. This wood was tested by us around the campfire and four pieces of wood burned for over 5 hours and was perfect for cooking with long durations of burn time. Since we will limit campfires in all areas due to a burn warning this should be absolutely an abundance of firewood along with the tremendous amount of downed wood in the areas of all the camps which we can use also. We also have a back up supply in case of emergency.
Three 750 gallon water container were brought in to the federal camp and special log platforms were built to set them on top so they will be difficult to be seen as well as ease in retrieving water for each camp area. Brush was placed around them to assist in the non appearance for each one. The quartermaster’s staff will constantly monitor all of the amenities and will arrange for any replacements for each camp. We have secured a 8000 gallon potable water tanker to be on site (behind the sutlers) and we will be on constant vigil to insure fresh clean water at all times for every camp.
Sinks were constructed (dug out) for each camp should the men chose to use them as the modern toilets will be placed in only a few locations and will be placed in out of the way spots to avoid as much visibility as possible.
Federal camps were laid out and each Brigade location was determined. Each location will offer them a choice of setting up camps streets with tentage or a cleared and mowed wooded area that is adjoining the open field camps. They are placed in a large circular area on the North central spot of the site with access to every road and camps. There is also a major wooded area adjacent to each in case the men want to be completely “campaign style” and not be visible from the main Federal camps. Each Brigade is situated to guard and protect the main camp from every possible way to avoid any CS intrusions as well as quick response time to any fellow unit that need a rapid support teams or a horse drawn piece to aid in the constant skirmishes that will begin on Thursday. Wagons can and will be deployed for ammunitions and water should you be required to remain in the field for any length of time. I would again suggest that each man carry a few rations (several hours) worth and also pack your units extra ammunition in marked and movable boxes should the need arise. (hint /hint
Headquarters’ is located centrally and each staff member will be performing the assigned duties of their position. All outpost/guards/pickets will need to be coordinated through headquarter as no entrance will be allowed without passes. All orders and messages will be written to avoid any confusion and all passwords will be passed verbally and the responsibility of each unit commander to insure the safety of the Federal camps. Brigades may be (hint) called upon to support the artillery and mixed camps as well. They will also be policing the camps for any modern intrusions or safety factors and military protocol will be adhered to at all times. Due to the extreme amount of planning, work and strategic layout of the camps, they will NOT be moved. (see pictures below)
The artillery camps are next to the mixed camps at the entrance to all the federal camps and are on the high road for ease of egress and ingress. Supplies have been placed in these camps as well and will be distributed via wagon should the need arise.
Miles of old fences were removed and all the wire and post hauled off as well as all holes left from the large post were filled with fresh dirt and tamped to avoid any injury to man or beast.
Approximately 50 miles of trails and roads were constructed throughout the vast expanse of this large property. It now appears as a maze. All roads and intersection have been named and will be located and designated on special maps which through the courtesy of the FFD Engineers who mapped them with an electronic device for us. Thanks to Mr. Brian Reifschneider of Blue Ridge Surveying, Inc., who drove all the way up and volunteered his time as well and Mr. Don Erickson of the FFD Staff.
The roads will lead all through the site and will accommodate both troop and period vehicles such as wagons and artillery with ease. They will be re graded a few days prior to the event. There is also a number of small trails designed for soldiers only and a clear walking path that connect both Fed and CS parking with the camps but there will also be pick up available from the parking lot which will carry you through the sutler area and drop you at the entrance to each camp but still be out of site from the camps.
A period correct bridge was specially constructed across the wide and deep creek in order to allow both armies to move from one side to the other on the East side of the site. This opens 5 large battle fields for light or heavy engagements. Who knows how many or how much fight will be on this side of the site????This is the only crossing along this creek for about ¾ mile.
Sutler areas were designated and placed in a high area almost center of the event and of equal distance from both camps. The “tram” cars will operate during non battle times to shuttle folks from parking to camps to sutler and to the (not visible from either camp) period ball the is planned at Burtons Sugar farms in his wonderful old style barn restaurant which is lighted and heated for all military and civilian reenactors. We have contracted with the 52nd Regimental String Band to provide music and dance and should prove to be a major highlight (reenactor only) ball. All should attend and it will be a very special evening of entertainment for all the beautiful ladies and their nineteenth century attire.
There will be a handful of modern vendors that were specially selected and will be placed in a non visible (from camps) area for those who so desire and will add some additional flare to those who have requested them.
I am sure I have forgot something that one of you may wish to be addressed and I will be happy to answer any questions that you or your folks may have. I can promise you this for certain. If you allow any single person to miss this, it will cause them to miss the ultimate event ever. This is an event that has never occurred in the past , offers every single man woman and even children the highest quality reenactor, living history “something for everyone” “accommodations for every style” event every and may never happen again. You have a few weeks left and the registration deadline has been extended. We have exceeded the number we expected and have planned for as much as double our expectations.
Don’t send you folks to some tiny 300 acres local event which contains modern intrusions and two boring scripted battles. The economy is not the issue. We have people registered from Australia, England, and almost every State in between. Lead your men to a new and exciting adventure. The new era of reenacting is here and now. Don’ let them miss it, Lead them, they will follow
PaperPusher
10-07-2010, 01:55 PM
I have just finished compiling the initial round of registrations that came in by 10 a.m. this morning. In keeping with the promise that was made when we first started this event I want to publish the following information.
I would like to extend a special thanks to the members of the Cotton States Battalion and the Elk River Battalion for choosing to galvanize for this event. It is with their assistance and the registrations that they have submitted that the following force ratios were possible.
Infantry force ratio 1:1 (Federals actually have the lead in this one by a little bit)
Cavalry force ration 1:1
Artillery force ratio 2:1
Again, we said we were not going to have a lopsided event and I believe the numbers show that we have been doing all that is necessary, along with help from our friends, to ensure that it wasn't.
flattop32355
10-07-2010, 02:22 PM
Just for curiosity's sake: Is that the Fed/Reb ratios or the Reb/Fed ratios?
It's only significant for artillery.
Last time I counted, there were about 550 total military (pulled out the civilians and those military 14 yrs. old and under). I'm guessing that number has grown some in the last few weeks.
PaperPusher
10-07-2010, 03:13 PM
they are CS/US .... the artillery is 2:1 but I will emphasize to you that the core Cleburne's Division artillery will compensate for that ratio by galvanizing like we always do...and yes you are correct the registration has increased considerably since that point.
thanks for your interest
44 Henry
10-14-2010, 12:22 PM
Where is the address for Twin Rivers Event? Is there an address that could be used with a GPS? Thank you for any information.
Spinster
10-14-2010, 12:40 PM
Where is the address for Twin Rivers Event? Is there an address that could be used with a GPS? Thank you for any information.
http://www.cleburnes-division.com/Default.aspx
Two locations--one for registration, and the site just down the highway.
David Hulsey
10-15-2010, 10:59 PM
Mrs.Lawson or Mr.Way,
just curious if you guys could give us some idea of any sutlers that may be attending the event.Thanks.
PaperPusher
10-18-2010, 12:00 PM
David,
I can post that information today as soon as I get caught up with registrations. Spent the weekend at the Franklin Tennessee reenactment and am busy playing catch up at the moment.
Information to come soon!!!!!
flattop32355
10-18-2010, 10:59 PM
Mrs.Lawson or Mr.Way,
just curious if you guys could give us some idea of any sutlers that may be attending the event.Thanks.
David, bring all your worn out and crapp gear.
Friday night, we'll raid the fresh fish camps and swap out their new stuff for our old.
I hear that's a period correct way to do things......
Artyman
10-19-2010, 12:30 AM
What is the statis of the recreated town of Dover?
Harry
Spinster
10-19-2010, 01:19 AM
Well Harry,
What do you need to know concerning the Town of Dover?
And that said, I'm off to Westville/Struggles of Secession first thing in the morning, and won't be back until Sunday night late.
So's the Town of Dover's Mayor, and a number of other folks.
PaperPusher
10-19-2010, 06:10 PM
As promised...here's the list of attendees. If anyone knows of a good period photographer that is interested let me know. It's the last slot I have open.
James Country Mercantile
Fall Creek Suttlery
Greenwood Mercantile
Border States Leather
Carrico Leather
The Lady in Black
Village Tinsmith
Heirloom Emporium
Coon River Mercantile
Dixie Gun Works
Jim Phillips Rootbeer
The Lantern Man
Paper Lady
Frontier Frybread and Kettle Corn
Stringbeans Blacksmith
Mercury Supply
Ladies and Gentlemen's Emporium
Irish Lady Sutler
Barnhart Studios
PaperPusher
10-19-2010, 06:12 PM
I would like to add that Ms. Helen with Greenwood Merchantile has recently received a shipment of the "new" Jean Wool that Woolrich is currently beginning to distribute. They have given her some to use for uniforms and she will have both the "old" Woolrich jean cloth and the "new" Woolrich jean cloth in her tent so that you may compare the two. She is going to keep a "response log" so that your voice can be heard. It will be sent back to the Woolrich folks as feedback on their product.
WestTN_reb
10-19-2010, 11:33 PM
Ms. Helen is a sweetheart, and a joy to do business with. I wanted a pair of jean pants, but my size was a little hard to pin down. She called me and had me (with my fiancee's help) take about a dozen different measurements, then made the pants to fit. I told her that I do hardcore events, and she worked with me as far as leaving certain parts for me to handstitch, and even knocked some off the price as a result. I've worn those pants to 3 different hardcore events now (Athens, Bummers, and Backwaters 1865), and when I told people they were Woolrich jean from Greenwood Mercantile, they couldn't believe it.
I got the first overcoat she made out of the then-new 100% wool Kersey from Woolrich (this over a year before Chris Sullivan had it). The difference between it and the 85/15 stuff most everyone else uses is amazing. I'll never buy another sky blue item made of 85/15. I'm curious to see what the improved jeanwool looks like.
Artyman
10-20-2010, 12:51 AM
I was told that they originally planned to recreate an 1861 replica of the town, that the buildings would be habitable, and that we home guard types would be allowed to billet in them. With so short a time since you decided to move the site I wondered how many such structures could be built this fast. What brings up the question is that the current unit scheduled to act as home guard now says they will go 'campaign' style, only returning to the town for rations and such. I have not made up my mind to attend yet, but us Medich guys have been invited to fall in with them since we have decided not to attend as a battalion. I will not attend if there isn't any shelter since I don't sleep under the stars anymore, especially in November and after a twelve hour drive. I plan to drive the '65 Mustang and leave the RV at home if I attend.
That's what I had in mind by asking how the town was coming along.
Thanks so much!
Harry
desotobob
10-20-2010, 01:37 AM
Harry -
Ms. Lawson is on her way to Westville. And I will be joining her shortly.
I have been involved with Twin Rivers since December. I am also the Mayor of Dover for this event. I am afraid you were misinformed. We were never going to have wooden facades for Dover, but were having tents represent our homes. As for the Home Guard, campaign camping is an option, as is creating a "home" by erecting a wedge tent. the only requirement for Town living is that you stay in non-military garb, i.e. Civilian. We do hope you will not let tent camping keep you from coming. The site is superb, and Gen'l's Way and Crowder have come up with some interesting scenarios. Dover will indeed be in the midst of the action, and we need ALL the Home Guard help we can get.Thow that wedge tent in the Mustang and come on down. This event is shaping up to be not to be missed. The campaign Home Guard will be a few scant yards from town. Please come join us.
Spinster
10-20-2010, 07:18 AM
I'll have to second Robert on this one.
My initial announcement states that there are no buildings for the Town of Dover. That was the case from the inception, long before any site change.
Home Guard camping is right over there, and your tentage is welcome.
Robert is correct. I'm due at Westville, Georgia this morning. Guess I better get myself in gear.
PaperPusher
10-20-2010, 11:43 AM
I got the first overcoat she made out of the then-new 100% wool Kersey from Woolrich (this over a year before Chris Sullivan had it). The difference between it and the 85/15 stuff most everyone else uses is amazing. I'll never buy another sky blue item made of 85/15. I'm curious to see what the improved jeanwool looks like.
I have a pair of trousers made from the same stuff. It's amazing the difference in appearance between those and the sky blues that have been more common in the ranks as of late.
Daniel Keith
10-20-2010, 12:01 PM
Is there an actual web site that gives the event schedule that I can point people to?
Daniel Keith
4th Missouri
PaperPusher
10-20-2010, 03:53 PM
Is there an actual web site that gives the event schedule that I can point people to?
Daniel Keith
4th Missouri
The event information is on the Cleburne's Division site www.cleburnes-division.com and the First Federal Division site. The only schedule that has been printed is that we will do the Saturday and Sunday main battles at 2 p.m.. The rest of the event will happen on a "moments notice" meaning that moving battles will occur as the day goes on during the rest of the event weekend. We will start on Thursday noon for those who are on site. This will not be a sit and wait for the main battles type event. There will constantly be someone committed to the field and some in camp having rest periods. The property is expansive enough that you can have three to four battalions of infantry out on the move and they would never run into each other. I would be happy to answer any more questions you may have....just let me know.
cgoser
10-20-2010, 06:26 PM
I thought I would post some information here to help Harry and others that might consider the Homeguard. Medich's Battalion might not be able to participate as a battalion, but the 11th Miss as part of that battalion has picked up the mantle. We're going to run the homeguard and we've extended our invitation to any others in the battalion that wish to join us (that's probably how you heard about it Harry). We would also like to cordially extend that invite to any others wishing to do a civilian homeguard impression.
Now to the intent...we have a parcel of land near the town, but out of the way where we will set up the static portion of the camps. This will allow us close proximity to and great interaction with the charitable populace of the town. It also allows anyone who might not be up to putting miles on the brogans to hunker down. There is additional opportunity offered by General Crowder and the event leadership for some mobility and campaigning. This doesn't make it a requirement to be in the homeguard, it is additional opportunity, especially during the first two days. We'll have the ability to return to the camps to refit and rearm. It doesn't mandate that this is the only time we'll be in the camps.
Anyone interested in falling in are welcome to contact me and I'll discuss it and I'll discuss it further. Don't want to give away all the secrets. :)
Best Regards,
Clay Goser
11th Miss Infy
Artyman
10-20-2010, 09:07 PM
I admit that the info we had about the town was perhaps hear say at the very beginning of the plans and before I ever saw this thread. Regrettably this was the impression we here were all left as we contemplated the event. It was also first thought that it would be some place else before it became Collierville and when the final move to Michigan city was announced it sorta took the wind right out of our sails. Now, any of us Medich guys who attend will be playing catch up. I could still bring the RV...
Let's see, 1,244 miles round trip, at 8 miles per gallon, $2.85 per gallon, lets see...155 gallons, times... er...CRIPES! thats $443 for fuel!:( Guess I'll leave the motor home behind! Motel maybe.... lets see, 4 nights at say....$60 per night....$240! Add gas for the Mustang, 25 MPG, times High Test at $2.95...uh...$146...add in the motel bill...$386! About $57 less, but I'd be farther from the event site...Guess I am about the same either way.:confused: I'll just hafta' wait and see what the rest of the boys want to do.:D
Harry
Artyman
10-20-2010, 09:20 PM
Yeah Clay, we are currently getting a concensus of how many 5th Texans are going to try to make it and take ya'll up on your offer. Times is tough up here in Ohia! Crossin' my fingers!
Harry
desotobob
10-20-2010, 10:26 PM
Hmmm...
Gas $146
Tent camping $0
Wood, water, portapotties, $20 (regustration fee)
Total cost $166
Over 1200 reenactors
over 250 horses
The 4 Kings
The Lady with the Big Spoon
Land to roam on
Best Western event in 2010 - Priceless
cgoser
10-20-2010, 10:36 PM
Harry,
We'll take anyone we can get from you boys. We want to make this special. You guys always have a home. Don't care if it's 20 or 3. We'll get to meet some new pards and have good times.
Clay Goser
Scooby_308
10-27-2010, 10:38 AM
I haven't seen this posted yet, so I thought I would pass it along:
Gentlemen,
As I mentioned in past emails, I would update you in regards to a very special plan for Sunday early AM. Other than the scripted battles for Sat and Sunday, no other information regarding the fighting during Thursday, Friday and Saturday AM will be posted. You have to be there to find out.
To the best of our ability, we have traced and it has been discovered that there are approximately 28 Confederate soldiers who were killed in action at the far NW corner of this site in 1863 at the Battle of Davis Crossroads.
Recently, an e-ray machine was brought in and they were located in and under a small grove of trees. Due to the fact that the roots have grown through them, it is impossible for them to be moved. Of the 28 or so, only one has been identified.
In cooperation with a local funeral home, Mr. Burton of Burton’s Sugar Farms and the Blue Gray Alliance Command, a great headstone is being engraved and will be placed at the actual site before we arrive.
To serve in HONOR of these fallen soldiers, the Blue Gray Alliance will dedicate a Dawn battle which will continue to a predetermined location at which time there will be a truce called from both sides.
Any and all civilians who so desire will be permitted to follow behind the Armies in March and Battle at a safe distance until the truce is called. (transportation will be provided or they can drive to the location via their autos on the hard roads just about a mile and a half)
At that time, the wagons for both armies will come forward along with any civilians and we will take a short break with some period amenities. We will all form and March side by side to the road leading to the marker and then take positions on both sides of the road leading to the grave site. This will be both armies and all branches.
A wreath will be carried between the armies to the marker and place followed by a full arms volley by each branch. It is my understanding at this time that there will be a State Senator as well as many other dignitaries, news media /tv stations on hand and this will be filmed for posterity.
I hope each of you will join us in this ceremony to finally recognize these men who gave all for their belief and Country.
Below is the inscription being carved on the stone:
This marker is placed in Honor of the Brave Men who made the ultimate sacrifice for their country, The Confederate States of America, during the War Between the States.
Pvt. James Higgins, and numerous other unknown soldiers buried in this vicinity in a mass unmarked grave.
Placed November 14, 2010
Please forward to all of your people as soon as possible. This will also be posted on the web sites as well as any forums. Remember, The Blue Gray Alliance and every member is dedicated to preserve every single person who served this great Nation of ours. “Heroes NEVER Die” as long as we keep them alive in our hearts and minds.
Colonel Terry Crowder, Commanding
First Federal Division
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WestTN_reb
10-27-2010, 11:35 PM
I suspect this mass grave are casualties from the engagement at Davis Mills on 21 December 1862. The number seems about right for the following excerpt from Col. Morgan's official report:
The enemy left in our hands twenty-two dead, thirty wounded, and twenty prisoners, together with one hundred stand of arms. Thirty wounded were deposited by them in a house near a church, about three quarters of a mile to the rear. These were left in the care of a surgeon, and from him I learn that between two and three hundred wounded were taken off in ambulances and on horseback.
Jubilo
10-28-2010, 08:55 AM
Dear Sir,
One observes that the stone's inscription does not exactly smack of "Reconcilliation," now does it? It may be a private matter but the stone so worded cannot meet with universal acceptance. Perhaps a moot point.
all for the old flag,
David Corbett
PaperPusher
10-28-2010, 10:27 AM
I wrote the inscription and had no ill intent in mind when it was penned. I merely stated facts. I am a proud American. Proud of those who fought for Lincoln and for Davis because they are all fellow countrymen and I believe they should "all" be honored accordingly. We are one people. We may not always see eye to eye in this great Nation but we are one of the few Nation's in the world afforded that priviledge by our forefathers and the "most precious" of documents they penned.
I do not take offense to your statement but I do stand strong in my beliefs.
Until we meet on the field, sir, I bid you good graces.
billwatson2
10-28-2010, 10:32 AM
Dave,
It is sometimes difficult to find the right words without lapsing into meaninglessness. "Here lie brave men who presumably died for something they thought they believed in" doesn't really have the necessary punch, and it's not much of a stretch that the CSA existed only so long as there was a Confederate army in the field. It's all perspective, and as we all know it's darn tough to put yourself in the mind of a person who has been dead 14x years to come up with something they'd like to see on a memorial in honor of their existence and sacrifice. I don't think the wording strays over the line into post-modern re-interpretation and might be close to an appropriate 1863 sentiment. Your mileage may vary. :-)
Jubilo
10-28-2010, 10:26 PM
Dear Messrs. Way and Watson,
I merely state that the wording could be objected to. Imagine if you will, if it was a stone for Federal dead having sacrificed all to put down the "Rebellion." I should think some would take umbrage with that as well. Monuments do come with issues . Boston crowds tore down a statue of George III not a dozen years after they erected it in his honor ! Let us let the matter rest.
all for the old flag,
David Corbett
PaperPusher
10-30-2010, 08:17 PM
On Monday night November 1, 2010 I will have the online registration disabled in order to organize for the event (and since I will be leaving for the event site the same week) Please make every effort to get your registrations in by this time. The US camp has more participants at this point than the CS camp and the numbers should remain balanced through close of registration. We appreciate those who are coming and look forward to seeing you all there.
RJSamp
10-30-2010, 08:49 PM
On Monday night November 1, 2010 I will have the online registration disabled in order to organize for the event (and since I will be leaving for the event site the same week) Please make every effort to get your registrations in by this time. The US camp has more participants at this point than the CS camp and the numbers should remain balanced through close of registration. We appreciate those who are coming and look forward to seeing you all there.
Thanks for all your hard work Mark, see you there!
ILYankee5
11-05-2010, 09:22 AM
I hope all is getting their final dealings done and are ready to report to the event that I personally have been looking forward to the entire year. We hope to see you there!
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