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Trooper Graham
09-12-2006, 10:02 AM
During searches everywhere I've read 'in his cot', 'absent from his cot', 'his gear stored under his cot', etc etc etc but I've yet to come across a description of a CW cot. Can anyone direct me in the right direction?

Slang

DanSwitzer
09-12-2006, 10:35 AM
Perhaps if you will perform a search function here on this site you might find a post on the subject. I know that at one time NJ Sekela had posted several illustrations of Civil War period cots taken either from advertisements in newspapers or patent office files.

Cots, stoves, and wooden floors in tents are not represented in proper numbers at events.

Dan

Ephraim_Zook
09-12-2006, 10:43 AM
Here ya go! Four pictures have got to be worth 4000 words.

http://www.cr.nps.gov/museum/exhibits/gettex/exb/tent.htm

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/cwp/4a40000/4a40200/4a40228r.jpg

http://memory.loc.gov/ndlpcoop/nhnycw/ad/ad41/ad41049v.jpg

http://memory.loc.gov/pnp/cwp/4a39000/4a39500/4a39547r.jpg

Trooper Graham
09-12-2006, 11:30 AM
Ask and here comes assistance...thanks for the responses. I did do a search here but came up with nothing. I just did a posting search for NJ Sekela but nothing came up. I really would like to see that diagram. Maybe he would be so kind to repost it...please.

Slang

Ephraim_Zook
09-12-2006, 02:47 PM
Cots, stoves, and wooden floors in tents are not represented in proper numbers at events.
Dan

Dan,

Not fer nothin', but how many events represent a winter or permanent camp situation? A cot, stove and wooden floor are hard to come up with when the army is travelling, even if it stopped for a couple of weeks before moving on again. The army didn't travel with moving vans.

A permanent camp situation is doable, although rarely done. But in all likelihood it wouldn't involve a battle.

regards

flattop32355
09-12-2006, 03:02 PM
Here ya go! Four pictures have got to be worth 4000 words.

Playing devil's advocate, would those in the second picture be better discribed as beds? And in the fourth picture, more a divan than a cot?

EasySam
09-12-2006, 04:35 PM
Saw a cot in a small museum in Pipestone, Mn. It folded into a small trunk. There was a period advertisement for it posted on the wall. The ad showed it with mosquito net and wire frame for the net. That was missing. You had to be really, really skinny to use it. Looked uncomfortable as all get out. I would rather sleep on the ground than on that thing.
Sam

tompritchett
09-12-2006, 09:32 PM
I did do a search here but came up with nothing. I just did a posting search for NJ Sekela but nothing came up.

It may have been made while we had the older software. All those threads were lost. I too hope that he reloads it.

NJ Sekela
09-13-2006, 05:11 AM
Friends:

I still have the information I posted, which was basically patents for camp cots during the war. As I recall, the posting was in reply to a thread on AC that stated that camp cots and/or air mattresses didn't exist.

Old ideas die hard, but they did indeed exist.

I am, &c,

NJ Sekela,
Manf'r.
N.Jers'y.

http://www.njsekela.com
http://www.ejtsutler.com
http://www.carterandjasper.com

Eliza
09-13-2006, 08:02 AM
Photos of Pipestone cot

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77

Trooper Graham
09-13-2006, 08:03 AM
Friends:

I still have the information I posted, which was basically patents for camp cots during the war. As I recall, the posting was in reply to a thread on AC that stated that camp cots and/or air mattresses didn't exist.

Old ideas die hard, but they did indeed exist.

I am, &c,

NJ Sekela,
Manf'r.
N.Jers'y.

http://www.njsekela.com
http://www.ejtsutler.com
http://www.carterandjasper.com

Thanks for your reply. Does the patents you have give a description on how they looked or how they were built? Do you know anyone that provides reproductions?

Slang

tompritchett
09-13-2006, 10:27 AM
I still have the information I posted, which was basically patents for camp cots during the war. As I recall, the posting was in reply to a thread on AC that stated that camp cots and/or air mattresses didn't exist.


That is how I remembered it also. Would you mind reposting it so that it can available for future searches? I am afraid, reposting will be the only way we will be able to rebuild our searchable database.

Rob
09-13-2006, 11:51 AM
If it's any help, the Camp Chase Gazette (August 1996) featured an article called "Building a Civil War Era Cot". It's listed in their Back Issues page. Perhaps someone who has this issue can comment?

DanSwitzer
09-13-2006, 12:09 PM
From Capt. Randolph B. Marcy's "The Prairie Traveler" come illustrations for 2 designs:

http://www.kancoll.org/books/marcy/mar5_14b.htm

Dan

Trooper Graham
09-13-2006, 12:25 PM
From Capt. Randolph B. Marcy's "The Prairie Traveler" come illustrations for 2 designs:

http://www.kancoll.org/books/marcy/mar5_14b.htm

Dan

I see the first is a little simular to an 18th century bed. Either one looks easy enough to make. I wonder if these are close to what Mr Sekela posted?
Thanks much for the info. Much appreciated.

Slang

reddcorp
09-13-2006, 07:02 PM
Rob:

Thanks for jogging my memory on the Camp Chase Gazette issue. I had recalled the plans being in there and being fairly decent. Now if I can just find my old issue.

A. Redd

Rob
09-13-2006, 07:30 PM
Rob:Now if I can just find my old issue.

Can't help you there. But I think they have it for sale, should your search prove fruitless.

http://www.campchase.com/pastissues.htm

Spinster
09-13-2006, 11:27 PM
From Capt. Randolph B. Marcy's "The Prairie Traveler" come illustrations for 2 designs:

http://www.kancoll.org/books/marcy/mar5_14b.htm

Dan

P Palmer Merchantile reproduces the bed illustrated in #1, in a 'period' length, and a longer length. While the website site is currently under construction, and does not list the item, you can inquire here: http://www.originals-by-kay.com/schedule/schedule.htm

We've had these in use for nearly 3 years now--and for us that means heavy use, 2-3 weekends per month in the field for 8 months of the year, and doing extra duty as a guestroom bed in the off season.

Trooper Graham
09-14-2006, 07:49 AM
Photos of Pipestone cot

76

77

I missed this post somehow. Thankyou Eliza. Very much appreciated.

Slang

NJ Sekela
09-18-2006, 05:21 AM
I will be posting the patent information this evening.

I am, &c,

NJ Sekela,
Manf'r.
N.Jers'y.

http://www.njsekela.com

NJ Sekela
09-18-2006, 10:22 PM
and...

http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/31936-1.gif
http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/33527-1.gif
http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/34971-1.gif
http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/36783-1.gif

I am, &c,

NJ Sekela,
Manf'r.
N.Jers'y.

http://www.njsekela.com
http://www.ejtsutler.com
http://www.carterandjasper.com

NJ Sekela
09-18-2006, 10:23 PM
http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/38827-1.gif

http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/42108-1.gif

http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/48671-1.gif

http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/50300-1.gif


I am, &c,

NJ Sekela,
Manf'r.
N.Jers'y.

http://www.njsekela.com
http://www.ejtsutler.com
http://www.carterandjasper.com

NJ Sekela
09-18-2006, 10:25 PM
from the hands of Mr. Goodyear...

http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/gyearmat.gif

http://www.njsekela.com/campbedpat/gymat1.gif

I am, &c,

NJ Sekela,
Manf'r.
N.Jers'y.

http://www.njsekela.com
http://www.ejtsutler.com
http://www.carterandjasper.com

Trooper Graham
09-19-2006, 08:49 AM
Much appreciated. Most detailing and what I was looking for.


Slainte

Sam