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Ken R KNopp
07-05-2009, 10:01 PM
Folks,

The July issue of the Camp Chase features an exclusive article I wrote for them entitled. “Western Cavalry Equipped as Infantry? Or, When the Obvious isn’t so Obvious!”. The meat of the piece is what arms and accoutrements were found in the ranks of western cavalry during the war. The research comes from a significant amount of war time Confederate documentation, ala’ the Ordnance Inspection reports (found in the National Archives), which are contemporary and accurate sources (not post war myth, reminiscences or reenactorisms) for what was actually found in the ranks. For some of the folks that read this forum there will be some earth shattering surprises here especially when it comes to the types of weapons, accoutrements and their numbers or, average percentages to “effective men” in the field especially when it comes to pistols. I am quite certain it will cause some controversy but I am very hopeful that reenactor/historians will read it with an open mind and consider its merits and recommendations. I enclose some "out of context" excerpts below.
Of course, this is meant as a “teaser”. I hope you gents will pick up an issue and maybe even endeavor a subscription. Camp Chase has new leadership. They are making some big changes and doing a great job.
By the way, in the August Issue I have another piece entitled, “Was there a Chronic Shortage of Haversacks and Canteens Among Western CS Cavalry? Or, Was it a Shortage by “Choice”? Another in the works will address the arms and accoutrements in ANV cavalry. I will get some excerpts out on these at a future date.

Thank You!!

Ken R Knopp
www.confederatesaddles.com



EXCERPT 1:
Confederate cavalry in the west armed and equipped as infantry? As knowledgeable reenactor-“historians” we say, “Oh sure, that’s obvious. Forrest/Wheeler, mounted infantry....!” Yes? Well, then why do most cavalry reenactors NOT reflect this fact? Sadly, today’s common western cavalry reenactor thinks himself quite authentic with his saber and saber belt, carbine cartridge box, pistol box with extra cylinders, multiple pistols and Sharp’s carbine. However, the reality was quite different.
Throughout most of the war the majority of the arms and accoutrements used by western Confederate cavalrymen were simple infantry type issue. The historical record from the numerous Inspection Reports in the National Archives, clearly show a preponderance of rifles and muskets in the ranks including Austrian Lorenz, Mississippi’s, .69 Muskets, Enfield’s, Springfield’s, etc. and some shot guns. Perhaps of greater importance is that there are a relatively small number of carbines, very few pistols and never a mention of extra cylinders. As for accoutrements, very few “saber belts” are noted, few sabers in the record and no mention of pistol boxes at all. Interestingly, accoutrements are noted separately and include a large percentage of “cartridge box belts”. Which suggests that cartridge boxes were often attached NOT on the waist belt like cavalry accoutrements but carried slung over the shoulder via the cartridge box “belt”....like infantry! Here’s the data: ..................


EXCERPT 2:
.........After the remarkable success by Forrest at Brice’s Crossroads, the resulting capture of Federal arms and equipment certainly augmented supply to a great degree. For study, we turn to an inspection report of Rucker’s Brigade of Chalmer’s Division dated July 3rd, 1864 as a relative sample of what then might be typically found throughout Forrest’s Cavalry. 4. Consisting of 1,072 effective men from three regiments of Tennessee and Mississippi cavalry we find the following:

Arms: (1,018 total or 95% with long arms)
653 or 61% Infantry arms (Austrians, 69. Muskets, Enfield, Mississippi’s, and assorted others)
365 or 34% Carbines (Sharps, Maynard, Burnside)
461 or 43% Effective men with pistols (36. Colt Navy; 44. Colt Army, French Lafachuaux)
36 or 3 % Sabers (Most in Chalmer’s Division)

Cart. Boxes 1,130 or 105%
Cart Box Belts 701 or 65.4% (At least two-thirds infantry types- others varied)
Cap Boxes 1,073 or 100%
Waist Belts 1,042 or 97%
Saber Belts 41 or 4 % (Most in Chalmer’s Div., Duff’s 19th Mississippi)

* As an example of the impact of his captures, after the battle Forrest could now equip nearly 100% of these men with horse equipment. ..................

EXCERPT 3:
.........CONCLUSION: No doubt, some will argue various references made by the veterans and even photographic evidence but these are as much anecdotal as they are circumstantial. The facts as found in the inspection reports are inarguable, the truth inescapable. The cavalry of the western Confederacy was armed and equipped a lot like infantry. Therefore, the arms and equipment found on many of today’s cavalry reenactors are at best, a misrepresentation of history or, at worst erroneous “reenactorisms”................

SIMPLE IS BETTER....LESS IS BEST!

1. For most, leave the saber and the pistol at home. On average only about 32% had pistols. Not three pistols, not two with extra cylinders....None!! Only one in three reenactors (privates) should even carry them. Even fewer carried sabers (never popular in western cavalry).

2. Most of the west’s cavalry carried infantry long arms such as the Austrian Lorenz, Mississippi, two-band Enfield and .69 cal. Muskets. Sharp’s carbines are way overdone! On average only about 25% had a carbine of any type. So, think about using a Burnside, Maynard or a shot gun. Better yet, trade your Sharp’s for a rifled long arm and sling it across your back....just as they did.

3. Lose the saber belt and buy an infantry cartridge box with shoulder belt (Federal or Confederate). One might also consider a plain, simple waist belt rig with an infantry (not a carbine box) cartridge and cap box or, occasionally going without either (use your pockets or haversack like they did)! ....................

EXCERPT 4:
.............AUTHOR’S NOTES:
- It was rare indeed for the typical Confederate cavalryman to have more than one pistol. In fact, on average two of three troopers in most regiments were entirely without. Even Texas Cavalry Regiments! Only the later records of Ross’s Texas cavalry brigade (Sept. 64) show higher percentages (90%). The records of the 8th Texas (Terry’s Texas Rangers) in particular show multiple pistols however, these are both exceptions to the rule. ................

-end-

mississippian
07-05-2009, 10:16 PM
Ken,

That is great info! Thanks for sharing, I had a couple of family members in the 5th Mississippi Cav, so it's interesting to note what kind of equipment they had.

Will MacDonald

captdougofky
07-06-2009, 04:31 AM
Folks,

The July issue of the Camp Chase features an exclusive article I wrote for them entitled. “Western Cavalry Equipped as Infantry? Or, When the Obvious isn’t so Obvious!”. The meat of the piece is what arms and accoutrements were found in the ranks of western cavalry during the war. The research comes from a significant amount of war time Confederate documentation, ala’ the Ordnance Inspection reports (found in the National Archives), which are contemporary and accurate sources (not post war myth, reminiscences or reenactorisms) for what was actually found in the ranks. For some of the folks that read this forum there will be some earth shattering surprises here especially when it comes to the types of weapons, accoutrements and their numbers or, average percentages to “effective men” in the field especially when it comes to pistols. I am quite certain it will cause some controversy but I am very hopeful that reenactor/historians will read it with an open mind and consider its merits and recommendations. I enclose some "out of context" excerpts below.
Of course, this is meant as a “teaser”. I hope you gents will pick up an issue and maybe even endeavor a subscription. Camp Chase has new leadership. They are making some big changes and doing a great job.
By the way, in the August Issue I have another piece entitled, “Was there a Chronic Shortage of Haversacks and Canteens Among Western CS Cavalry? Or, Was it a Shortage by “Choice”? Another in the works will address the arms and accoutrements in ANV cavalry. I will get some excerpts out on these at a future date.

Thank You!!

Ken R Knopp
www.confederatesaddles.com



EXCERPT 1:
Confederate cavalry in the west armed and equipped as infantry? As knowledgeable reenactor-“historians” we say, “Oh sure, that’s obvious. Forrest/Wheeler, mounted infantry....!” Yes? Well, then why do most cavalry reenactors NOT reflect this fact? Sadly, today’s common western cavalry reenactor thinks himself quite authentic with his saber and saber belt, carbine cartridge box, pistol box with extra cylinders, multiple pistols and Sharp’s carbine. However, the reality was quite different.
Throughout most of the war the majority of the arms and accoutrements used by western Confederate cavalrymen were simple infantry type issue. The historical record from the numerous Inspection Reports in the National Archives, clearly show a preponderance of rifles and muskets in the ranks including Austrian Lorenz, Mississippi’s, .69 Muskets, Enfield’s, Springfield’s, etc. and some shot guns. Perhaps of greater importance is that there are a relatively small number of carbines, very few pistols and never a mention of extra cylinders. As for accoutrements, very few “saber belts” are noted, few sabers in the record and no mention of pistol boxes at all. Interestingly, accoutrements are noted separately and include a large percentage of “cartridge box belts”. Which suggests that cartridge boxes were often attached NOT on the waist belt like cavalry accoutrements but carried slung over the shoulder via the cartridge box “belt”....like infantry! Here’s the data: ..................


EXCERPT 2:
.........After the remarkable success by Forrest at Brice’s Crossroads, the resulting capture of Federal arms and equipment certainly augmented supply to a great degree. For study, we turn to an inspection report of Rucker’s Brigade of Chalmer’s Division dated July 3rd, 1864 as a relative sample of what then might be typically found throughout Forrest’s Cavalry. 4. Consisting of 1,072 effective men from three regiments of Tennessee and Mississippi cavalry we find the following:

Arms: (1,018 total or 95% with long arms)
653 or 61% Infantry arms (Austrians, 69. Muskets, Enfield, Mississippi’s, and assorted others)
365 or 34% Carbines (Sharps, Maynard, Burnside)
461 or 43% Effective men with pistols (36. Colt Navy; 44. Colt Army, French Lafachuaux)
36 or 3 % Sabers (Most in Chalmer’s Division)

Cart. Boxes 1,130 or 105%
Cart Box Belts 701 or 65.4% (At least two-thirds infantry types- others varied)
Cap Boxes 1,073 or 100%
Waist Belts 1,042 or 97%
Saber Belts 41 or 4 % (Most in Chalmer’s Div., Duff’s 19th Mississippi)

* As an example of the impact of his captures, after the battle Forrest could now equip nearly 100% of these men with horse equipment. ..................

EXCERPT 3:
.........CONCLUSION: No doubt, some will argue various references made by the veterans and even photographic evidence but these are as much anecdotal as they are circumstantial. The facts as found in the inspection reports are inarguable, the truth inescapable. The cavalry of the western Confederacy was armed and equipped a lot like infantry. Therefore, the arms and equipment found on many of today’s cavalry reenactors are at best, a misrepresentation of history or, at worst erroneous “reenactorisms”................

SIMPLE IS BETTER....LESS IS BEST!

1. For most, leave the saber and the pistol at home. On average only about 32% had pistols. Not three pistols, not two with extra cylinders....None!! Only one in three reenactors (privates) should even carry them. Even fewer carried sabers (never popular in western cavalry).

2. Most of the west’s cavalry carried infantry long arms such as the Austrian Lorenz, Mississippi, two-band Enfield and .69 cal. Muskets. Sharp’s carbines are way overdone! On average only about 25% had a carbine of any type. So, think about using a Burnside, Maynard or a shot gun. Better yet, trade your Sharp’s for a rifled long arm and sling it across your back....just as they did.

3. Lose the saber belt and buy an infantry cartridge box with shoulder belt (Federal or Confederate). One might also consider a plain, simple waist belt rig with an infantry (not a carbine box) cartridge and cap box or, occasionally going without either (use your pockets or haversack like they did)! ....................

EXCERPT 4:
.............AUTHOR’S NOTES:
- It was rare indeed for the typical Confederate cavalryman to have more than one pistol. In fact, on average two of three troopers in most regiments were entirely without. Even Texas Cavalry Regiments! Only the later records of Ross’s Texas cavalry brigade (Sept. 64) show higher percentages (90%). The records of the 8th Texas (Terry’s Texas Rangers) in particular show multiple pistols however, these are both exceptions to the rule. ................

-end-

I'm not Cav. but I do appreciate the History lesson. Those that do Cav. including dismount should find this interesting. Got me to thinking about Camp Chase subscription again.

Always
Doug Thomas
Lyons-Kentucky CS

Craig L Barry
07-06-2009, 06:37 AM
...which is unbelieveable if you have not seen one...is reviewed in that issue, as well as a brief obit on Charles Heath. The Campaigner Corner is a long overdue attempt to include information on events and material culture at all levels of participant interest in the hobby. All Civilian material is still in Citizens Companion, which does a reasonable job of covering all levels already.

Thought the Western Cav article was excellent, loved the stats. IIRC, Forrest used US 1841 rifles for his cavalry?

Bill_Cross
07-06-2009, 08:34 AM
This is one of those moments where you smack your head and say "how could we be so stupid?" Cavalry in the WBTS was evolving from the massed horse charges of the Napoleonic era that informed most generals and military theorists into a sort of mobile infantry (the classic example being Buford's heroic and effective stand on the first day of Gettysburg, suffering, if memory doesn't fail me, a handful of casualties). So why would they be carrying the detritus of a previous war when their mission had changed so? Of COURSE they were carrying infantry arms!

Sabers are heavy, noisy and most of all, EXPENSIVE. When the war broke out, the United States (Union and Confederacy) did not have enough swords to equip all the officers who suddenly materialized, much less hordes of cavalry. The sword I carry in the field when I portray an officer is a French import, without inscription or maker's mark and therefore of limited historical value (and cheaper than a true relic). The sword is typical of the thousands imported from France, Germany and elsewhere. But even scouring the arsenals of Europe could not slake the thirst for materiel on both sides- I have seen period photos of officers carrying War of 1812/Napoleonic swords with their distinctive right-angle box hilts. A relic from Grandpa? More likely all that could be scronged up.

My point being that this article cuts away all the reenactorisms in one fell swoop and frees us to see what our logic and research should have told us: that cavalry would be equipped with whatever was at hand, and the South, strapped for armaments, would concentrate on giving its riders effective equipment, not frou-frou intended for formal inspections.

Bravo, Ken. It's rare to see a pivotal moment in our understanding of the past, but this is surely one IMO. :)

RJSamp
07-06-2009, 08:55 AM
good stuff as always Ken, good to see/meet you done at Brice's Crossroads (if only very briefly). A quick caveat on this (Bill Cross, are you listening?!)

The title is a misnomer....there really and truly was FEDERAL Cavalry in the West as well (although Wheeler, Forrest, Morgan rode circles around them for a long time). so change the title form "Western Cavalry..." to "Western CSA Cavalry...".

Read "Minty of the Cavalry" sometime. The 4th US Cavalry and their sister regiments made over 100 SABRE charges during the ACW.....out West.
Read Robert Scott Forse's masterpiece "The Story of a Cavalry Regiment" sometime. The entire cavalry Division left their Saber's and Spur's on their led horses at Brice's Crossroads whilst they fought dismounted.

As a 7th Illinois, 10th Missouri Cavalry fan and erstwhile reenactor, I can assure you that there was Federal Cavalry in the West. Not all of them were mounted infantry (or possibly on mules) like the 9th Ohio Inf, 9th Ill Inf, 4 Wisconsin Infantry, Wilder's Brigade.

And for you Poinsett's fans, most of this was done in single ranked mounted formations (Cooke's).....Marais des Cygnes, Mine Creek, the charge at what is now Loose Park (Brush Creek/Battle of Westport, up by the newly landscaped duck pond on the East side of the park on Wornall).

the message to CSA cavalry reenactors is crystal clear: dismount, fight on foot, use more 3 bander rifle muskets, stop with the pistol carousels already, and never ever charge dead ahead against formed infantry and artillery batteries. (OK to do against militia with a single mountain howitzer like at the Mockabee Farm, now Tower Park at about 78th St. in KCMO).

Thanks Ken!

Bill_Cross
07-06-2009, 08:58 AM
good stuff as always Ken, good to see/meet you done at Brice's Crossroads (if only very briefly). A quick caveat on this (Bill Cross, are you listening?!).
I ALWAYS listen to you, RJ, unless you're out-of-tune. ;)

My remarks were to the CS side of the horse, if you notice.

Southern Cal
07-18-2009, 11:40 PM
"An introduction to Civil War Small Arms", Earl J. Coates, has Confederate Cavalry armed with all manner of weapons. Note that some are listed as "Rifle Muskets" and others as "Rifled Muskets" that, is, smoothbores later rifled.

For instance, in the generic category of "Smoothbore Muskets 69. cal." the following CSA Cavalry are listed as having definitely used used them (at some point): 8th TX Cav, 23 VA (1861), 33 Va, 44 VA (1861). "Model 1842 Rifled Muskets .69 cal.": 2 NC Cav. "Enfield Rifle Muskets ,577 cal.: 2 NC Cav, 11 VA Cav. "Enfield Rifles .577 cal.": 2 NC Cav, 7 VA Cav. "Richmond Rifle Muskets": 16 VA Cav. "Richmond Rifles: 36 Bn. VA Cav. "Austrian Rifle Muskets, .54 cal.": 2 NC Cav, 8 TX Cav. "Belgian or French Rifled Muskets, .69 cal.":8 TX Cav. "Model 1841 'Mississippi" Rifle, .54 cal.": 8 TX Cav, 11 TX Cav, 12 VA Cav, 14 VA Cav, 34 Bn. VA Cav, 35 Bn. VA Cav, 36 Bn VA Cav, "Burnside Carbines": 2 NC Cav, 8 TX Cav, 6 VA Cav, 7 VA Cav, 11 VA Cav, 12 VA Cav, 35 Bn. VA Cav. "Gallagher Carbines"; 11 VA Cav. "Hall Carbines": 11 TX Cav, 1 VA Cav, 6 VA Cav, 11 VA Cav, 12 VA Cav. "Merrill Carbines": 1 VA Cav, 7 VA Cav, 11 VA Cav, 12 VA Cav, 14 VA Cav, 35 Bn. VA Cav. "Sharps Carbines": 2 NC Cav, 1 VA Cav, 6 VA Cav, 7 VA Cav, 12 VA Cav, 35 Bn. VA Cav. "Smith Carbines": 2 NC Cav, 7 VA Cav, 11 VA Cav, 12 VA Cav, 35 Bn. VA Cav. "Double-barrel Shotguns": 15 AR Cav, 24 Bn GA Cav, 8 TX Cav, 11 TX Cav, 14 VA Cav.

I'm sure this isn't an exhaustive list but does show how varied the small arms CSA cavalry used, especially other than carbines, even within the same unit. Whether all units used these arms at the same time or at different times isn't always made clear.

rebel_ryan2002
07-19-2009, 09:06 AM
I feel better when I read an article like this. I am with a dismounted unit in Texas, but carry a 3 band Enfield, and only carry my pistol about half the time. I guess our unit does pretty good though, as we have a mixture of Enfields, Springfields, musketoons, carbines and shotguns. We even use the infantry cartridge box as well- but need to start getting the shoulder strap it looks like. Thanks so much for the information.

If someone could enlighten me- We do use Cooke's drill manuel with the one line instead of two like Poinsett's. What I have read is that the Northern cavalry never really did adopt Cooke's, in the east particularly, and only started using it in the west in 1864.

I have read that Confederate cav in the east did not use Cooke's either and was wondering if that was true? I guess specifically Stuart is who I am mentioning. I know Cooke was his father-in-law giving chase to him for much of the war.

In the west I have heard of Forrest and Morgan using the one-line Cooke style drill, but it was not called that. Is that correct? I've read that Morgan had written his own drill and that was being used, but today we just use Cooke's instead.

If I got anything wrong, please let me know.