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shooter13
12-04-2008, 09:47 PM
O. K. I need your input on the rifled muskets sold by this company. I am buying 2 Enfields in January for reenactments and was looking at their product and wondering if anyon has tried them.
Parault
12-04-2008, 09:55 PM
I don't have their Enfields but do have a couple of their other weapons. I am pleased.
tompritchett
12-05-2008, 12:15 AM
I would suggest that you do a search of this forum on the topic of Loyalist Arms. There have been numerous threads on their firearms over the past two years.
Stonewall_Greyfox
12-05-2008, 08:57 AM
Without getting into the battle about safety and authenticity...
One point of fact is that they only produce smoothbore weapons...therefore if you're looking for a rifled weapon, say a M1861 US Springfield, P1853 Enfield, or M1854 Lorenze...these would all be manufactured with NO RIFLING.
Paul B.
trippcor
12-05-2008, 10:28 AM
Loyalist Arms does now indeed produce a rifled version of their Austrian Lorenz. They have enlisted the help of a US gunsmith that does the work. I personally have three weapons from Loyalist Arms, a match lock, Long Land Bess, and a Lorenz (smoothbore varient). I have been very happy with all three. They are reliable and work well.
Having said that, they do have many flaws. First Loyalist does not proof their barrels. (This is test them to verify the barrel can withstand the pressures of firing) You must do this yourself if you want to use it as anything more than a wall hanger. I have proofed mine and they passed without a hitch. I have heard of others that did not though. No major failing like the breech completely blowing out or anything like that. Just cracking which over time can lead to a disaster. Loyalist Arms did replace these with new guns that did pass being proofed. Also like most reprops there are authenticity issues. Some of which can be overcome easily such as stock shape and others such as barrel caliber that can not.
If I were you I would look elsewhere for your enfield. Armisport makes a good one that is proofed so at least you know it is safe. Several sutlers offer defarbed versions as well so you can get a weapon right out of the box that is ready to go.
VA Soldier
12-05-2008, 08:39 PM
While I have never owned a loyalist arms piece I did consider it. The main reason I decided against one had to do with getting work done should something go wrong.
Its the difference between having interchangeable parts and not. Many sutlers carry a variety of Euro Arms or Armi Sport parts, but for the Loyalist you would have to send it back to the factory or contact a gunsmith.
Not saying that you would ever need to have this done, but I was just being cautious, knowing that it would be my luck to have something happen and not be able to use my musket, then have to send it off for two months to get it fixed.
just something to consider
D. Jackson
tompritchett
12-05-2008, 10:51 PM
Its the difference between having interchangeable parts and not. Many sutlers carry a variety of Euro Arms or Armi Sport parts, but for the Loyalist you would have to send it back to the factory or contact a gunsmith.
I have not owned a Loyalist Arms weapon but with my Euroarms Enfield at one time or another I have had to replace the cone, tumbler, seal pin and one screw holding the lockplate in place. With my Richmond, I have had to replace a hammer screw. Therefore being able to purchase spare parts from either the manufacturer or from a sutler would be a major consideration for me.
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