The Annual Big Event Announcement

[Trimmings]

This is the week after Remembrance Day in Gettysburg, and there is no big event announcement pertaining to the following year. What gives? While I fully realize Napoleonic Tactics, Inc. is long gone, who are the new movers and shakers in the realm of big events?

Will there be a Spotsylvania or Wilderness event in Virginia? What of Franklin in Tennessee? What of Atlanta? Resaca? Cold Harbor? Are major living history events in the works?

Forgive me if this information has been posted elsewhere and I have failed to find it. I no longer subscribe to Camp Chase or Civil War News. Thank you.

[Ross L. Lamoreaux]

http://www.authentic-campaigner.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=124 These are the only events I usually care for. The "movers and shakers" have been making announcements for events for the last several months for the 2009 season, and will continue to do so, via this and other forums as well as "Camp Chase", "Civil War News", and "Civil War Historian" all have excellent upcoming event calendars. For many of us, "Into the Piney Woods" and "Bummers" are the go-to events for the year. It depends upon if you're looking for that big mega-event, which seems to have fallen by the wayside, or events with some historical substance but less numbers. If Gettysburg and Atlanta from this year are any indicator, that big old-fashioned CW lovefest is going the way of the dinosaur.

[OVI]

This is the week after Remembrance Day in Gettysburg, and there is no big event announcement pertaining to the following year. What gives? While I fully realize Napoleonic Tactics, Inc. is long gone, who are the new movers and shakers in the realm of big events?

Will there be a Spotsylvania or Wilderness event in Virginia? What of Franklin in Tennessee? What of Atlanta? Resaca? Cold Harbor? Are major living history events in the works?

Forgive me if this information has been posted elsewhere and I have failed to find it. I no longer subscribe to Camp Chase or Civil War News. Thank you.

Quite frankly Ray...the day of the big National CW gathering of the tribes has ended. In the East there is a Spotsylvania of some sort next spring and the usual Gettysburg and Cedar Creek circuses. Out West...it is a wasteland since the North/South Alliance has died. To my knowledge there are no movers or shakers for big events any longer.

Kent Dorr - Ohio
"Devils Own Mess"

[Colonel Dave]

The big event for 2009 is the 145th Atlanta on Labor Day weekend.
Earl Zeckman is the go-to guy and putting in together. Look for some impressive Union numbers since the event seems to have support from several federal organizations, even up in the north.

[captdougofky]

This is the week after Remembrance Day in Gettysburg, and there is no big event announcement pertaining to the following year. What gives? While I fully realize Napoleonic Tactics, Inc. is long gone, who are the new movers and shakers in the realm of big events?

Will there be a Spotsylvania or Wilderness event in Virginia? What of Franklin in Tennessee? What of Atlanta? Resaca? Cold Harbor? Are major living history events in the works?

Forgive me if this information has been posted elsewhere and I have failed to find it. I no longer subscribe to Camp Chase or Civil War News. Thank you.

Trimmings

NSA is gone, but having said that. Cleburne's Division is working on getting the major mainstream organizations together. The West is fine and the future is now. Big events in the West will return, only under different Leadership.

Always
Doug Thomas
Lyons Battery CS
Kentucky

[OVI]

Trimmings

NSA is gone, but having said that. Cleburne's Division is working on getting the major mainstream organizations together. The West is fine and the future is now. Big events in the West will return, only under different Leadership.

Always
Doug Thomas
Lyons Battery CS
Kentucky

Doug...who do you consider the major mainstream organizations in the West? Both sides?

Kent Dorr - Ohio
"Devils Own Mess"

[captdougofky]

Doug...who do you consider the major mainstream organizations in the West? Both sides?

Kent Dorr - Ohio
"Devils Own Mess"

Kent

South, Celburne's-North-your ground. Tell me. Stand of Colors 1200 or so is not a National. You know I shot with 1st.Confederate Division back in the old days. Federal Division, like I said, tell me. Your neck of the woods.

Always
Doug Thomas
Lyons Battery CS
Kentucky

[WestTN_reb]

Speaking of Cleburne's, there's talk of hosting a large event at Brices Crossroads/Tupelo in June '09. If this is as well organized as Missionary Ridge was earlier this month, it should be pretty good.

[Silas]

In a year when the big, big, big events aren't on the schedule, you might consider a better event. Piney Woods will be the best event of the year followed closely by Bummers. Neither will be small.

Not everyone going to Piney Woods is considered to be at the extreme end of the reenacting spectrum. There will be many streamers attending the event who will learn that they can have a great time without without pie, beer, cots, tents and dance bands.

I am hoping to discover some pie at Bummers.

[cjdaley]

In the East there is a Spotsylvania of some sort next spring and the usual Gettysburg and Cedar Creek

In looking for events to attend as a vendor, I'd say these are the three I'm looking at for 2009.

I'd like to attend Neshaminy's 20th Anniversary and New Market 145th Anniversary, but they are each within a few weeks of Spotsy so I doubt I'll take time off from my real job to attend more than one.

[tompritchett]

Will there be a Spotsylvania or Wilderness event in Virginia?

The Spotsylvania website is advertized on the first two pages of this forum prior to entering the lobby.

[Trimmings]

Tom,

Thank you. It took me a while to find it, even by using the search feature.

A link for others to use as well:

http://www.spotsylvaniacommemorative.com/

I didn't say I was the sharpest spoon in the box.

[sigman]

Initial buzz seems to have most Federal battalions here in the East planning to do Spotsylvania next year. Remember that devil of a storm on Friday evening five years ago?

Andy Siganuk, Mifflin Guard

[OVI]

The big event for 2009 is the 145th Atlanta on Labor Day weekend.
Earl Zeckman is the go-to guy and putting in together. Look for some impressive Union numbers since the event seems to have support from several federal organizations, even up in the north.

The 145th Atlanta was offered as one option for a max effort event for the 1stFed Division battalions. I heard that the idea of an Atlanta event was popular but the Labor Day weekend date was a no go.

Kent Dorr - Ohio
"Devils Own Mess"

[Colonel Dave]

Labor Day fits most of the Cumberland Guard units fairly well. The extra day gives us an extra day to drive home. Our largest concern is that it is the week after the 25th annual event at Jackson, Michigan, sponsored by the 7th Michigan, a prominent Guard organization....so it will be supported by all of us.

[WestTN_reb]

Unfortunately, work won't cooperate for IPW, but I plan on hooking back up with Holler and the boys for Bummers.

That said, I belong to a Mainstream unit, which is my primary focus. The hardcore events are the dessert for me. I manage to do a fair mix of each every year. As I've said before, "I'm a fence-sitter, and **** proud of it."

[tompritchett]

Thank you. It took me a while to find it, even by using the search feature.

Rather than searching all you had to do was just enter the initial page of this forum at www.cwreenactors.com and then click on the 145th Spotsylvania banner on the right.

[Trimmings]

Tom,

Quite right, and I must remind myself to visit the front page every few months just in case something new is posted, such as that 150th.com banner. That outfit looks interesting, but can you shed more light on the purpose and function beyond what is already on their website? When fully stocked this should be a fine tool.

[tompritchett]

That outfit looks interesting, but can you shed more light on the purpose and function beyond what is already on their website?

I know no more about it than is on the website. I am not sure whether it is Bob or the Provost who actually coordinates the ads for the forum but that is definitely something beyond my level of involvement with the forum.

[OVI]

It appears to me that the new website 150ths.com is what I would call a postitioning venture. The site itself basically has no content but whoever is developing it has set it up in anticipation in being a clearinghouse for National events for the upcoming 150th cycle. It is a marketing gambit and it could be that it sees itself as potential web-based replacement for the event listings of Camp Chase Gazette, Civil War News etc. Time will tell.

Kent Dorr - Ohio
"Retired Marketing Mess"

[Trimmings]

Kent,

Yours is such a diplomatic way of saying "hollow shell." That was my impression as well. I'll go watch a few of the bigger ones.

[OVI]

Kent,

Yours is such a diplomatic way of saying "hollow shell." That was my impression as well. I'll go watch a few of the bigger ones.

Dont get me wrong...the 150ths site and idea has potential. My question would be...is someone working behind the scenes to begin getting the kind of material and information to fill this thing out? Otherwise, the casual visitor will find nothing there to keep their interest. Im guessing this is a calculated move to make money from banner ads for 150th events and sutlers etc.
Real paper products like magazines and newspapers are going to be dying off at an accelerated rate in the coming years. I would bet the Camp Chase Gazette may not make it to the 150s. Thats why I see the possibility of a web-based replacement here.

Kent Dorr - Ohio
"Devils Own Mess"

[Trimmings]

Kent,

That would be a safe bet, except the 150ths started three years ago with Bleeding Kansas 1855. The question is which events will get the nod and which ones will go with little notice, and how many events will be announced before the land is even secured.


Real paper products like magazines and newspapers are going to be dying off at an accelerated rate in the coming years. I would bet the Camp Chase Gazette may not make it to the 150s.

Some might not make it through the winter. Current economic woes have hastened the media paradigm shift in some ways.

[tompritchett]

Real paper products like magazines and newspapers are going to be dying off at an accelerated rate in the coming years.

Now this is a subject which Bill Watson can really give us the scope on - at least in terms of newspapers.

[Ross L. Lamoreaux]

Kent,

That would be a safe bet, except the 150ths started three years ago with Bleeding Kansas 1855. The question is which events will get the nod and which ones will go with little notice, and how many events will be announced before the land is even secured.



Some might not make it through the winter. Current economic woes have hastened the media paradigm shift in some ways.
Tis all too true about the shift in media forms, particularly amongst living historians. In fact, this very media, the web forum, is a major reason why most CW magazines and papers are losing the serious living historian. The amount of information and research material is immense, and the access is much quicker and cheaper. The Authentic Campaigner Forum, as well as CW Reenactors is a luxery for research based reenactors, which is making traditional print media obselete on the most part. To get by today, a CW magazine or paper has to offer something "extra".

[PaperPusher]

Trimmings

NSA is gone, but having said that. Cleburne's Division is working on getting the major mainstream organizations together. The West is fine and the future is now. Big events in the West will return, only under different Leadership.

Always
Doug Thomas
Lyons Battery CS
Kentucky

There are things brewing in the West and in the East right now. Cleburne's Division is steadily doing our best to bind together a brotherhood of reenactors to give us all the chance to attend the larger events we once had. Besides our event in June we are steadily putting out the word about the 145th Resaca and 145th Atlanta events in 2009. Both events are ran by men I consider to be "above the board" and doing all within their power to put on a good event. Cleburne's will focus on providing events that will appeal to ALL reenactors. I do not like the labels that get plastered like bumper stickers on one event or another. There is a place in reenacting for everyone and it could possibly be at the same event. I know that there are many without the same perspective on things that I have and I respect that. We, with the help of alot of reenacting organizations, are trying to put reenacting back into reenacting and to make everyone welcome. Our events will be safe and have rules and regulations that will be enforced. Order is necessary when you have more than 10 people in the same place and safety is paramount. We're not bashful about lining everyone up and doing thorough weapons inspections before every battle. If you have issues with someone inspecting your weapon to make sure that the man beside you and across from you doesn't suffer an injury you're cut from a different cloth than I am. I appreciate the support we receive from some of the people on this site. We in Cleburne's have a philosophy about reenacting and we are making every effort to live by that philosophy every day. We are family oriented and believe everyone should be welcome, whether you want to camp down in the woods in a more authentic military camp, you want to camp family garrison or you want to stay at the motel 8 and fall in when you are required you are welcome!

[flattop32355]

There is a place in reenacting for everyone and it could possibly be at the same event. I know that there are many without the same perspective on things that I have and I respect that.

I'll agree, within reasonable limits, and allowing for various sets of standards for different events. Not every event is for every reenactor, be it the theoretical "low" end or "high" end event or somewhere in between.


We, with the help of alot of reenacting organizations, are trying to put reenacting back into reenacting...

You might want to explain that one a bit further, for us more dense reenactors. ;)


We're not bashful about lining everyone up and doing thorough weapons inspections before every battle. If you have issues with someone inspecting your weapon to make sure that the man beside you and across from you doesn't suffer an injury you're cut from a different cloth than I am.

That's a good starting point. I'd personally like to see that same sentiment extended into the realm of minimum proficiency level at drill (particularly in proper firing methods), the ability to manouver in conjunction with other units in the field, minimum standards for military camp protocols and procedures, and a well established understanding that scenario busting actions and/or doofus behavior to maximize one's own jollies at the expense of others are not acceptable. These all have safety aspects for the common good.

Keep in mind that this isn't coming from a cph/hardcore kinda fellow, though I do cross the fence from time to time. I'm a mainstreamer who appreciates that we are supposed to be recreating a sense of CW military/civilian life somewhere short of the more unpleasant aspects of getting killed or sick, both for our own edification and for those who come to see us.

[PaperPusher]

That's a good starting point. I'd personally like to see that same sentiment extended into the realm of minimum proficiency level at drill (particularly in proper firing methods), the ability to manouver in conjunction with other units in the field, minimum standards for military camp protocols and procedures, and a well established understanding that scenario busting actions and/or doofus behavior to maximize one's own jollies at the expense of others are not acceptable. These all have safety aspects for the common good.

We are working diligently to establish and implement at all events the items you discussed. Drill needs to be improved dramatically. Individual companies need to attain a level of ability that will better allow battalion and brigade drill to be more successful and fluid. A well drilled company, battalion, and brigade is a much safer, well organized fighting unit. We promote diligence in military affairs both in camp and on the field. All units and commanders should function as the scenario is laid out, or as the overall commander directs in an unscripted tactical, so that the event runs smoother, safer and more enjoyable for all. We take the time to do morning parade with all event participants at each event, usually both mornings and are making sure that we do it in an authentic manner. We have gained some well experienced Brigade commanders with a wealth of knowledge and experience to guide and direct our activities, Hunter Poythress of the GVB being one of those.

To answer your question about putting reenacting back into reenacting I will offer the following. An event is about the men in the ranks, not the commanders. Self glorification of event leadership is not what we are about. We want to ensure that the privates, ncos, unit commanders on up attend an event where they get to live the experience and enjoy themselves. If a man wants to bring his family and spend the precious dollars that it takes to get his family to an event then he should leave on Sunday glad that he did. It's about educating the public, it's about living as much of the experience that you can live in a weekend and it's about people of like mind spending quality time together doing what they have a passion for. No matter which side of the proverbial fence you are on. We want to make a place for everyone to experience what they want to experience at an event. We want to accomodate all aspects of reenacting to the best of our ability at an event regardless of your place around the fence. We want to encourage our young to follow in our footsteps and keep alive the reverance and respect we have for our ancestors who served on both sides that we have today.

I realize this may be a daunting task but we are up to it and we are continually joined by reenactors who have the same vision for our future who want to see these things come to be.

[PaperPusher]

I apologize for not appropriately listing the quote in the previous thread from Bernard.

[Anders]

Well said sir- as an adjutant would!

It takes a lot to be a true adjutant in this hobby, I am blessed to have one of the best in Mr Dangel.....not to mention a darn good friend.

Pards,

[PaperPusher]

Well said sir- as an adjutant would!

It takes a lot to be a true adjutant in this hobby, I am blessed to have one of the best in Mr Dangel.....not to mention a darn good friend.

Pards,

Thanks Chris,

I appreciate it.

[53rd OVI]

"An event is about the men in the ranks, not the commanders. Self glorification of event leadership is not what we are about. We want to ensure that the privates, ncos, unit commanders on up attend an event where they get to live the experience and enjoy themselves. If a man wants to bring his family and spend the precious dollars that it takes to get his family to an event then he should leave on Sunday glad that he did. It's about educating the public, it's about living as much of the experience that you can live in a weekend and it's about people of like mind spending quality time together doing what they have a passion for. No matter which side of the proverbial fence you are on."


Well said as that is one of the reasons I am getting back into this hobby after being away for 4 yrs. The people in it and the commrodery of the people in the hobby. The feeling of being accepted for just being there to help out the experience and the education of the public. The schools have taken it out the books pretty much. So we need to keep it going. Just my two cents:cool: