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10-20-2008, 02:58 PM
While I had the unfortunate opportunity to visit the family cemetery plot, I did discover a relative with a CW headstone in Clayton, NY.
Co. C. NY H.A.
Since my re-enactment era is late Iron Age, I'm a little lost about what kind of information can be gleaned from the "Co. C. NY H.A"?
Is that enough to learn more about his unit?
10-20-2008, 03:21 PM
To find out info about him individually go to the Soldiers and Sailors System by the Park Service. I tried posting the url link, but it doesn't seem to want to function. A quick google search using the terms above will find it for you.
Then this to find his unit specifically:
10-20-2008, 03:43 PM
Without the Regimental Number your quest could be difficult.
The "H.A" is probably a designation for "Heavy Artillery". Prehapes a coastal defence or fortification unit in the N Y coastal reagions and not a field unit.
Clayton, N Y may not be near any N Y coastal areas, so you may have to find out where the individual lived at the time of the War to get an idea as to the unit he may have served in.
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10-20-2008, 07:12 PM
Blair - Oh, very good. I was wondering what the "HA" stood for. That gives me a little more info than I had before and potential starting spot since 7thMDYankee's info requires that you know unit type. Additionally, this matches a rememberance that I had that I was told he was "a canoneer".
Clayton NY is on the St Lawrence seaway near the "Thousand Islands". It is conceivable that there may have been emplacements there? I take it Heavy Artillery only means fortification artillery and not mobile units?
Finally, since you said "Without the Regimental Number your quest could be difficult." I'm guessing that there was no rhyme or reason to the numbering of these units? In other words, you can't assume say the 125th was made up of people from Onondaga county, and the 126th from Oswego county, etc?
10-20-2008, 07:53 PM
I found a John M. Grandee 10th Regiment, New York Heavy Artillery. Company C was recruited in the Clayton area in the towns of Antwerp, Evan's Mills, LeRay and Philadelphia. Maybe this will help you.
10-20-2008, 09:05 PM
Odds are he served with a Heavy Artillery unit in the defences of Washington, DC.
Some of those units were sent out as infantry during 1864-65 when the threat to DC had diminished.
10-21-2008, 07:41 AM
I want to thank you all for that fantastic information!
Coming from a re-enactment time period where we struggle to prove pillows actually existed, I'm impressed with the speed and resources you used locate info. It is just staggering.
10-21-2008, 09:40 AM
Depending on the population within a give county they maybe able to recruit a given number of Companies of Inf, Cav, and Art. It may take several counties to make up a Regiment. Counties with large cities maybe able to form full Regiments from that high population.
A friend of mine is researching a Mississippi Unit. When they first mustered into State service they had enough people to form at least two Companies of Infantry and their designation was the Co B 5th Miss. Vol. Battalion. When they mustered into C S service they became the Co K 27th Miss. Inf Regiment. This Regiment was probable made up from various counties from northeast Miss. but this is not always the case.
10-21-2008, 11:47 AM
This is what I found through the American Civil War Research Database ...
John M. Grandee
Residence was not listed; 18 years old.
Enlisted on 8/5/1862 at Clayton, NY as a Private.
On 9/11/1862 he mustered into "G" Co. NY 10th Heavy Artillery
He was Mustered Out on 6/23/1865 at Petersburg, VA
Additional information regarding the 10th New York Heavy Artillery ...
Organized: Sackett's Harbor, NY on 12/31/62
Mustered Out: 6/23/65 at Petersburg, VA
Officers Killed or Mortally Wounded: 0
Officers Died of Disease, Accidents, etc.: 2
Enlisted Men Killed or Mortally Wounded: 47
Enlisted Men Died of Disease, Accidents, etc.: 218
(Source: Fox, Regimental Losses)
From - To/Brigade/Division/Corps/Army
Mar '63-Mar '64/3rd Brigade/Defenses North of Potomac/22nd Corps/ Department of Washington, D.C.
Mar '64-Jun '64/3rd Brigade/Defenses South of Potomac/22nd Corps/ Department of Washington, D.C.
May '64-Jul '64/2nd Brigade/Defenses South of Potomac/22nd Corps/ Department of Washington, D.C.
Jun '64-Jun '64/2nd Brigade/3rd Division/18th Corps/Army of the James
Jun '64-Aug '64/1st Brigade/2nd Division/18th Corps/Army of the James
Jul '64-Aug '64/4th Brigade/Defenses South of Potomac/22nd Corps/ Department of Washington, D.C.
Aug '64-Sep '64/1st Brigade/Defenses South of Potomac/22nd Corps/ Department of Washington, D.C.
Sep '64-Dec '64/2nd Brigade/Kitching's Prov'l/Army of the Shenandoah
Oct '64-Dec '64/4th Brigade/Defenses South of Potomac/22nd Corps/
Department of Washington, D.C.
Dec '64-Apr '65/2nd Brigade/Infy Div. Defenses Berm. Hund./18th Corps/ Army of the James
Co I, 47th Virginia
The Stafford Guards
10-21-2008, 11:36 PM
1860 United States Federal Census
about John Grandy
Name: John Grandy
Age in 1860: 18
Birth Year: abt 1842
Birthplace: New York
Home in 1860: Clayton, Jefferson, New York
Post Office: Clayton
Sandford Grandy 69
Hannah Grandy 50
Thomas Grandy 20
John Grandy 18
Archibald Grandy 12
Jennet Grandy 12
Source Citation: Year: 1860; Census Place: Clayton, Jefferson, New York; Roll: M653_761; Page: 519; Image: 524.
1850 United States Federal Census
about John M Grandey
Name: John M Grandey
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1843
Birth Place: New York
Home in 1850(City,County,State): Clayton, Jefferson, New York
Archibald F Grandey 3
Hannah Grandey 36
John M Grandey 7
Sanford Grandey 59
Thomas M Grandey 9
Source Citation: Year: 1850; Census Place: Clayton, Jefferson, New York; Roll: M432_514; Page: 427; Image: 608.
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